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Re: Your phone is about to stop being yours

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Post by benoau »

bitpush wrote: post #3

Isnt the title a bit dramatic? I remember reading you can still install apps but you just need to click a few buttons.

This isn't referring to the efforts Google has gone to try to thwart sideloading.

It is another requirement of Google's, where all developers must be registered to them and apps must be signed by them and anything that isn't will be blocked.

Re: Your phone is about to stop being yours

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Post by jjgreen »

bitpush wrote: post #3

Isnt the title a bit dramatic? I remember reading you can still install apps but you just need to click a few buttons.

From TFA:

    Delve into System Settings, find Developer Options
    Tap the build number seven times to enable Developer Mode
    Dismiss scare screens about coercion
    Enter your PIN
    Restart the device
    Wait 24 hours
    Come back, dismiss more scare screens
    Pick "allow temporarily" (7 days) or "allow indefinitely"
    Confirm, again, that you understand "the risks"

    Nine steps. A mandatory 24-hour cooling-off period. For installing 
    software on a device you own.

Re: Your phone is about to stop being yours

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Post by 0x3f »

jjgreen wrote: post #5
bitpush wrote: post #3

Isnt the title a bit dramatic? I remember reading you can still install apps but you just need to click a few buttons.

From TFA: Delve into System Settings, find Developer Options Tap the build number seven times to enable Developer Mode Dismiss scare screens about coercion Enter your PIN Restart the device Wait 24 hours Come back, dismiss more scare screens Pick "allow temporarily" (7 days) or "allow indefinitely" Confirm, again, that you understand "the risks" Nine steps. A mandatory 24-hour cooling-off period. For installing softw…

Sounds a bit like trying to transfer my own money to myself at the bank. I.e. it seems designed to prevent old people getting scammed.

Re: Your phone is about to stop being yours

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Post by zb3 »

Yes, but not because of those changes in the GMS stock OS, but because the ability to unlock the bootloader (and install the OS you can actually control) is being increasingly limited.

Stock GMS Android was never yours, you only had access to basic permissions, privileged/signature permissions were only accessible to Google/vendors anyway.

Re: Your phone is about to stop being yours

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Post by jnovek »

smalltorch wrote: post #2

The opt out is graphene os yeah?

Yes, but there are issues.

You can’t use stuff like banking apps on a modified device and losing access to normal android devices would be a big blow to the momentum of the F-Droid community. GrapheneOS might not be a big enough community to sustain work on the projects delivered by F-Droid.

Re: Your phone is about to stop being yours

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Post by nine_k »

jjgreen wrote: post #5
bitpush wrote: post #3

Isnt the title a bit dramatic? I remember reading you can still install apps but you just need to click a few buttons.

From TFA: Delve into System Settings, find Developer Options Tap the build number seven times to enable Developer Mode Dismiss scare screens about coercion Enter your PIN Restart the device Wait 24 hours Come back, dismiss more scare screens Pick "allow temporarily" (7 days) or "allow indefinitely" Confirm, again, that you understand "the risks" Nine steps. A mandatory 24-hour cooling-off period. For installing softw…

I see zero trouble as long as it requires no additional identification, no additional payment, and no mandatory time limit for the sideloaded apps.

That is, fine by me. I can wait for 24 hours once in a few years when I acquire a new mobile phone.

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