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Period tracking app, Flo, found to be selling user data to Meta

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Re: Period tracking app, Flo, found to be selling user data to Meta

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I don’t have the right configuration of equipment to use an app like this, but does anyone know why this needs to be a service-driven app? What piece of functionality requires a server to track your health?

Like notes apps, reminder apps, etc, data from almost everything we do on phone is saved in cloud. That data is their business fundamental. Same with this app also.

Re: Period tracking app, Flo, found to be selling user data to Meta

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post #19

I don’t have the right configuration of equipment to use an app like this, but does anyone know why this needs to be a service-driven app? What piece of functionality requires a server to track your health?

Not being a women, I've always wondered what insight the app gives regardless of data traveling to a server... does it do anything you can't do with a simple notebook app (like Apple's default Notes)? If you have an irregular period, does this app help "guess" when it's going to start/end? If you have a regular period, why do you need an app at all?

Like most data entry software there’s nothing that unstructured notes (or paper) can’t handle.

The main useful feature of the apps (or Apple Health’s tracker which is entirely adequate) is that it sends reminders on the estimated period start date, and then a few days afterwards if you haven’t recorded the end date.

Even “regular” periods often aren’t perfectly regular, or can become irregular when they were regular. (Which is often very important health information.)

It also automatically calculates median period length and typical variation/range.

All unnecessary for some people but very useful for others.

Re: Period tracking app, Flo, found to be selling user data to Meta

#93

It's really sad that we have all this technology but we can't trust any of it.

I'll make a period tracker for you for 5 bucks a month. You won't buy it, because it costs 5 bucks a month. So I'll have to find alternative monetisation strategies.

why does it have to be 5 bucks a month and not a one time purchase?

Re: Period tracking app, Flo, found to be selling user data to Meta

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post #85
post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never used Flo specifically, so I don't know what kind of data analysis it has available, but period data is the #1 most useful health data to have an app crunch for you, and "your period starts tomorrow" is a pretty darn useful notification to get.

Most of the women I know well enough to know this about them track and predict the onset of their next period without needing an application. It isn't exactly rocket science.

Well, until some years ago we remembered dozens of phone numbers, birthdays, routes, physical addresses, due dates, etc.

The trick is to "give a tool for 1-2 generations of customers" , and then they'll be fully dependent on the tool.

Re: Period tracking app, Flo, found to be selling user data to Meta

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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People in power want the information to identify a narrower set of people who may have been pregnant and then did not have a child and so may have had an abortion. And facebook doesn't care about people's rights when those people in power are able to block Facebook from acquiring some new startup they want to buy, so facebook is willing to share the information.

Handmaids, assemble! Gilead is in your device.

Re: Period tracking app, Flo, found to be selling user data to Meta

#96

I don't have a period, so I'm not the best person to do it, but there really needs to be a solid FOSS alternative to flo. If GNU had more women, it'd probably already exist

I don't know how many more examples people need to see of big tech not respecting privacy... it's just becoming a farce now. Big tech tracking woman's cycles? Of course they are. (sigh) If this doesn't gross people out enough to seriously pursue alternatives, I literally don't know what will.

Re: Period tracking app, Flo, found to be selling user data to Meta

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I don't have a period, so I'm not the best person to do it, but there really needs to be a solid FOSS alternative to flo. If GNU had more women, it'd probably already exist

A comparable FOSS app called Drip has been on F-Droid since forever.

Re: Period tracking app, Flo, found to be selling user data to Meta

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post #76
post #56

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Could they get a warrant for that data anyway?

Why get a warrant when you can just buy it? This whole data economy has significantly undermined privacy, including 4th amendment protections.

Admissible evidence probably requires parallel construction and then a warrant. The purchased data is the catalyst but not legally actionable.

Re: Period tracking app, Flo, found to be selling user data to Meta

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I don't have a period, so I'm not the best person to do it, but there really needs to be a solid FOSS alternative to flo. If GNU had more women, it'd probably already exist

https://www.my28x.com/ I recently heard a talk from this founder. It's free and local, but don't think it's OSS. They have a high ORCHA rating, but waiting to see if they keep their business model this way

Re: Period tracking app, Flo, found to be selling user data to Meta

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That ridiculous bit of “modern” slang… that has been in use for a few hundred years?

Not a word I use much myself except when referring to “yappy little dogs”, but it is definitely common among those the generation above me and that above them.

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