Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

The State of Windows 8

soluto.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

41–50 of 85 posts

Re: The State of Windows 8

#41

Post by ygra »

CountSessine wrote: post #15
account_taken wrote: post #13

I find it really hard to believe average crashes is 7.1/month on Windows 7. I run Windows 24/7. It's never crashed. I have an overclocked 4.5Ghz i5 and have many VMware sessions running. Maybe it's because I have quality hardware? Same experience with OS X. Both are rock solid.

I'm not sure about this, but I don't think that these are kernel-level crashes - just plain old user-mode application crashes (ie not something that crashes the whole computer). It's interesting that windows explorer under windows 8 is crashing that much. I guess there's a lot of new code in it.

It could also just be it being unresponsive and people click “close this application” instead of “wait until it responds again”, which I believe gets classified as an application crash by the system as well (but I'm not sure). In any case, such unresponsiveness can be caused by a non-available network connection already.

Re: The State of Windows 8

#42

Post by ygra »

damian2000 wrote: post #19

Blown away by the stat about 7% of all Chinese PC users on Windows 8 already. Wonder how many are purchased as opposed to trial/beta versions though.

7 % of Chinese PC users who installed Soluto. I guess the large portion who uses a pirated, unpatched, malware-ridden XP probably doesn't have Soluto either.

Re: The State of Windows 8

#43

Post by bruceboughton »

josteink wrote: post #34

Interesting to see how vendor-provided files, drivers and utilities seems to be causing most problems across the line. Also it seems that Windows 8 has a lot going for it stability-wise. The figures reported (if reliable) seems to indicate that Windows 8 is about 2-3 times more stable than Windows 7, which I already would consider pretty good. That's a remarkable improvement. As for Windows 8 itself, I had a chance t…

I would be slightly hesitant to put the improvement in stability purely down to Windows 8. On average, the Windows 8 installs will be newer and fresher than the XP and W7 ones, and Windows has a bit of a reputation of detioriating with use.

Finally, early adopters are far more likely to buy highly specced machines, rather than cheaper machines that are not up to the job.

Re: The State of Windows 8

#44

Post by Someone »

AdamTReineke wrote: post #8
kenjackson wrote: post #3

If this is representative then sales of win8 are great. About 700m units of win7 sold to date. From this win8 is a bit more than 1/25th the sales of win7 So about 28m units sold so far?

That matches the numbers that Ballmer of about 1 million units per day [1] and keeps them on track for 400 million by EOY 2013 [2]. 1: http://www.infoworld.com/t/microsoft-windows/steve-ballmer-f... 2: http://www.forbes.com/sites/benzingainsights/2012/09/07/how-...

Everybody can predict that 400 million number. http://phys.org/news/2012-11-china-lenovo-consumer-pcs.html claims

"The survey by IHS iSuppli said the total PC market in 2012 is expected to contract 1.2 percent to 348.7 million units, down from 352.8 million in 2011."

I think it is safe to bet that 90% of PCs sold in 2013 will be sold with Windows 8 installed. 90% of 350M gets you a good way towards that "400M copies sold" figure. Add in some sales for tablets and two months of sales in 2012, and you probably are there already. To get anything different, the economy would have to collapse spectactularly, or people would have to stop buying Windows PCs en masse.

For Windows, the more interesting figures would be how many PCs run Windows 8 (I bet many companies will overwrite Windows 8 with Windows 7 or XP), and how many standalone upgrades got sold.

Re: The State of Windows 8

#45

Post by wslh »

robomartin wrote: post #28

I am not sure how good this data might be, being that it originates from software that might not be widely deployed. That said, it is always prudent to look for other sources and compare: http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_system... http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.... http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php The most surp…

What are those packages that will cost a lot to move to Windows 7? I am curious because I work on legacy application integration.

Re: The State of Windows 8

#47

Post by unfamiliar »

robomartin wrote: post #28

I am not sure how good this data might be, being that it originates from software that might not be widely deployed. That said, it is always prudent to look for other sources and compare: http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_system... http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.... http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php The most surp…

>Some of these workstations see heavy FEA work 18 hours a day, 5 to 7 days a week.

I don't really see how constant high CPU usage is a good measure of the stability of an operating system.

Re: The State of Windows 8

#48

Post by boyter »

aluhut wrote: post #38
boyter wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe the problem lies with the laptop? I never have issues with 7, but my experience is just as anecdotal as yours. Have you tried XP on it to be sure?

Not XP (my private licence) but I have Ubuntu running parallel for my private stuff. Never had any problems with it.

Going to go on a hunch and suggest its a dodgy driver then, or some piece of hardware windows is picking up that Ubuntu isn't. Its annoying that bad drivers still crash windows but the same thing happens on Linux systems.

Re: The State of Windows 8

#50

Post by hfs »

bluedanieru wrote: post #33
robomartin wrote: post #28

I am not sure how good this data might be, being that it originates from software that might not be widely deployed. That said, it is always prudent to look for other sources and compare: http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_system... http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.... http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php The most surp…

Vista got better right around the time W7 was released anyway, right? Both in terms of the OS itself as well as better support from third parties. I've always thought that W7, while a great operating system in its own right, also benefited from Vista acting as a sort of beta test for all the new shit they added like UAC and better separation of concerns. FWIW I had a Vista machine from a few months after release unti…

Microsoft's every other OS is a good one. The ones in between are almost always poop.
Post reply on HN