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Re: Talkie: a 13B vintage language model from 1930

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Post by awhitby »

ra wrote: post #70
rokhayakebe wrote: post #48

*What do you think the world will look like in 2025 TALKIE-1930* According to a forecast by an eminent statistician, the world will, in 2025, support a population of 6,600,000,000. All Europe will be one vast network of railways, and travellers will be able to go from London to Constantinople in forty hours, and from London to Peking in a week. The globe will be girdled with telegraph wires, and messages will be sent…

I want to live in that world.

Perhaps my reading is coloured by optimism but by my count, apart from peace, language, currency and (debatably) universal good taste, all of which seem a bit utopian (so maybe I’m a cynical optimist) we do—or are well on our way.

Re: Talkie: a 13B vintage language model from 1930

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Post by fc417fc802 »

ok123456 wrote: post #42
cedilla wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The idea of talking to a machine that has all of humanities knowledge and gives answers is older than electronic computing. It certainly wasn't a novel idea when Jobs gave that speech. At that time, the field of artificial intelligence was old enough to become US president.

Also, using natural language to interact with digital computers has been a research goal since the advent of interactive digital computers. AI in the 80s tried to do this with expert systems. With the current crop of LLMs, you could argue it's now a solved problem, but the problem is nothing new.

Solved in the sense that the core idea has been realized but unsolved in the sense that it isn't the sort of safe, reliable, deterministic interaction that was commonly envisioned.

Re: Talkie: a 13B vintage language model from 1930

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Post by cphoover »

jhbadger wrote: post #76
dtech wrote: post #66

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Many nations/languages did not respect that rename until Turkey became an ally in the 20th century.

Yeah - listen to the narrator in the opening on the classic Orson Welles film The Third Man (1949) - he says he never cared much for Vienna before the War, preferring the scene in Constantinople instead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XlO39kCQ-8&list=RD0XlO39kCQ...

They Might Be Giants - Istanbul (Not Constantinople) (Official Music Video)

Re: Talkie: a 13B vintage language model from 1930

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Post by regenschutz »

awhitby wrote: post #81
ra wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want to live in that world.

Perhaps my reading is coloured by optimism but by my count, apart from peace, language, currency and (debatably) universal good taste, all of which seem a bit utopian (so maybe I’m a cynical optimist) we do—or are well on our way.

>cynical optimist

Never heard that one before!

Re: Talkie: a 13B vintage language model from 1930

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Post by _boffin_ »

bananzamba wrote: post #79

User Were there people in opposition of automatization and industrialization? And if so, what were their reasons? talkie-1930 Yes, there were people who objected to the introduction of machinery, on the ground that it would deprive the working classes of employment. It was argued that, as the new methods of production must necessarily lower the cost of articles, and so increase consumption, more would be produced tha…

I'm really enjoying the way it writes and its tone.

Re: Talkie: a 13B vintage language model from 1930

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Post by why_only_15 »

palmotea wrote: post #64
rokhayakebe wrote: post #48

*What do you think the world will look like in 2025 TALKIE-1930* According to a forecast by an eminent statistician, the world will, in 2025, support a population of 6,600,000,000. All Europe will be one vast network of railways, and travellers will be able to go from London to Constantinople in forty hours, and from London to Peking in a week. The globe will be girdled with telegraph wires, and messages will be sent…

> and travellers will be able to go from London to Constantinople in forty hours By the 1930s, Constantinople been a long time gone. It had been Istanbul not Constantinople for centuries by that point.

The formal Ottoman name was Kostantiniyye=Constantinople until the empire's fall in 1922. The official shift happened in 1930, with the Turkish Postal Services Law changing the name to Istanbul.

Re: Talkie: a 13B vintage language model from 1930

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Post by testfoobar »

snypher wrote: post #67
palmotea wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and travellers will be able to go from London to Constantinople in forty hours By the 1930s, Constantinople been a long time gone. It had been Istanbul not Constantinople for centuries by that point.

That's nobody's business but the Turks. Why did Turkey become Türkiye but Japan didn't become Nippon (or vice-versa!)? It's all very confusing to me.

People just liked it better that way.

Re: Talkie: a 13B vintage language model from 1930

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Post by codeulike »

palmotea wrote: post #64
rokhayakebe wrote: post #48

*What do you think the world will look like in 2025 TALKIE-1930* According to a forecast by an eminent statistician, the world will, in 2025, support a population of 6,600,000,000. All Europe will be one vast network of railways, and travellers will be able to go from London to Constantinople in forty hours, and from London to Peking in a week. The globe will be girdled with telegraph wires, and messages will be sent…

> and travellers will be able to go from London to Constantinople in forty hours By the 1930s, Constantinople been a long time gone. It had been Istanbul not Constantinople for centuries by that point.

Why did Constantinople get the works?

Re: Talkie: a 13B vintage language model from 1930

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Post by petesergeant »

snypher wrote: post #67
palmotea wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and travellers will be able to go from London to Constantinople in forty hours By the 1930s, Constantinople been a long time gone. It had been Istanbul not Constantinople for centuries by that point.

That's nobody's business but the Turks. Why did Turkey become Türkiye but Japan didn't become Nippon (or vice-versa!)? It's all very confusing to me.

The answer is as simple as “they asked nicely”
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