Live data from Hacker News

U.S. companies back Sam Altman's World ID even as much of the world pushes back

restofworld.org

81–90 of 110 posts

Re: U.S. companies back Sam Altman's World ID even as much of the world pushes back

#81

I think we need less technology. Can we have a de-tech movement? Life-saving tech is fine but enough is enough with software, AI, surveillance, etc. It's too much. It's been too much for the past twenty years or so.

[flagged]

seriously, what kind of ignorant rube would be opposed to Technological Progress(TM)? Pol Pot, Lysenko? thank god our society is run by serious people, the kind who understand the importance of ensuring that the Line goes Up at all costs

Re: U.S. companies back Sam Altman's World ID even as much of the world pushes back

#83

Judging solely by their FAQ, this is not enough. Iris photos can be fabricated client-side, including by AI, and can be shared. So it's invasive AND worthless? Why is this getting support? You need an offline/IRL verification step and measures to prevent sharing/cloning. AND you need to never phone home revealing services you're using. Total garbage Proof of human verification powered by the Orb only involves one typ…

>You need an offline/IRL verification step

That's what the orb thing is about. You go visit, meet humans, have a photo of your eyes. You can't just hold up an AI photo or scan your dog or whatever.

Re: U.S. companies back Sam Altman's World ID even as much of the world pushes back

#84
post #67
post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or like, have chronological feed of accounts user follows. Simple. Produces less outrage tho, so it is a no go.

This assumes that most people would choose that feed? Which, I'm less convinced. That is, this sounds like the idea that telling people if bad things happen when you eat too much candy, then people will eat less candy. Just flat not the case at large. Yes, you also have to document the downsides of candy. Such that I'm also all for having that feed. But I don't see it being enough to move the needle much, on its own.

> That is, this sounds like the idea that telling people if bad things happen when you eat too much candy, then people will eat less candy. Just flat not the case at large.

Seems like there's an effect but it just takes time. The younger generations are smoking and drinking less.

Maybe the trend will be to abstain from social media feeds and chronological feeds will be their Zima.

Re: U.S. companies back Sam Altman's World ID even as much of the world pushes back

#85
post #3

As if I needed another reason to despise this continent. Who actually wants to uphold, work for, and build these systems in our society? This is seriously the kind of nation you want to inhabit?

Pay me enough and I'll do it. The only thing that matters anymore is money.

/shrug

Re: U.S. companies back Sam Altman's World ID even as much of the world pushes back

#86
post #31

This is an odd topic. On the one hand, we do seem to have a problem where attention is hijacked by engagement farming. On the other, we also know of problems from draconian management. I would actually like it if we had something that could say, only promote things on my feeds that are "liked" by people within a geographic radius of me. At the least, mute things that are getting pumped from hostile regions. I just do…

> only promote things on my feeds that are "liked" by people within a geographic radius of me

Ugh, really? I live in a part of town where I speak a different language than the vast majority of the people in this "geographic radius of me" which means I'd see very little content that I could understand.

Where do people come up with these wild ideas of anything other than show me the content of people I want to see in the order it was posted? If you want a "Feeling Lucky" type of feed, make it available. Otherwise, you're sending people content they don't want and are only too lazy to stop using it.

Re: U.S. companies back Sam Altman's World ID even as much of the world pushes back

#87

I think we need less technology. Can we have a de-tech movement? Life-saving tech is fine but enough is enough with software, AI, surveillance, etc. It's too much. It's been too much for the past twenty years or so.

You shouldn't be down voted for this. It's a valid opinion and it's an acceptable lifestyle.

My personal line doesn't go back 20 years. But I think a lot of people can relate.

Re: U.S. companies back Sam Altman's World ID even as much of the world pushes back

#89
post #49

I tried to track down the original source of the news that World ID is being adopted by Zoom and Tinder and DocuSign and it looks like it's an event they hosted on April 17th. Here's their blog post about it: https://world.org/blog/announcements/the-new-world-id-and-th... There were more logos on that title slide: Tinder, DocuSign, Zoom, Okta, Vercel, Shopify, Browsnerbase, AWS, exa, RAZER, Coinbase, VanEck

[dead]

Re: U.S. companies back Sam Altman's World ID even as much of the world pushes back

#90
post #6

You mean to tell me that companies that got rich by hoarding data are excited to hoard more data? Never would have guessed. Also, why wouldn't anyone want to have data about everyone? Seems like a valuable asset.

It's only considered an asset because companies are allowed to externalize the cost of breaches.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS9ptA3Ya9E (Mitchell and Webb on "identity theft")

Post reply on HN