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GitHub Copilot is moving to usage-based billing

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Re: GitHub Copilot is moving to usage-based billing

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Post by bachmeier »

dist-epoch wrote: post #82
bachmeier wrote: post #48

I'm happy I invested in local solutions and cutting context to the bone for API providers. Claims about AI being able to fully replace programmers never took into account the long-run equilibrium price of inference.

Already there are companies paying more for coding tokens than for programmer salaries.

That's my point. They made those decisions without any consideration for the long run, which would have required them to project the cost of AI services years into the future. Obviously management didn't do that and had no way to do that. It made current earnings look good, though, which was enough for them when they made the decision.

Re: GitHub Copilot is moving to usage-based billing

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Post by AntiUSAbah »

BearOso wrote: post #154
Incipient wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd call it a straight up "bait and switch".

If you paid attention to the power requirements and amount of hardware being put into data centers, you should have realized that it cost them an order of magnitude more than you were being charged. To rework your analogy: they hooked you, now they're gonna see if they can reel you in.

They can only reel you in if its worth it. I still can code.

And while i do not spend 200$ privat, in my startup we discussed this and our current mental model is, that instead of hiring someone new, we prefer to have more money for tokens.

This is easier for us and has a bigger benefit. The cost of a new / first employee is very high, a 200$ subscription is not. Upgrading that to lets say 400 or 800$ is still alot easier and if i can run multiply and better agents with that money, lets goooo.

Re: GitHub Copilot is moving to usage-based billing

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Post by dist-epoch »

bachmeier wrote: post #171
dist-epoch wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Already there are companies paying more for coding tokens than for programmer salaries.

That's my point. They made those decisions without any consideration for the long run, which would have required them to project the cost of AI services years into the future. Obviously management didn't do that and had no way to do that. It made current earnings look good, though, which was enough for them when they made the decision.

Not sure what your point is, but they are firing lower performing programmers so that the top programmers have more tokens to spend.

Re: GitHub Copilot is moving to usage-based billing

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Post by fortran77 »

I'm not sure I understand this. All I know is now, I pay $39/month (actually less because I paid a year up front), use the agent, mostly on auto--and only choosing a model if it got stuck or in a loop--every day, and haven't hit any limits yet. It seemed to good to be true, after hearing others talk of $300/month bills. I guess it was.

Re: GitHub Copilot is moving to usage-based billing

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Post by dayjaby »

deeviant wrote: post #49
4ndrewl wrote: post #29

"Plan prices aren’t changing.” Isn't this like saying "The Porsche you rented at $200/mo is now a Honda. But the price hasn't changed!"

It's more like saying, "and you may now only use the Porsche for 5 minutes out of every day."

Full brake on the autobahn if you hit your 5min limit

Re: GitHub Copilot is moving to usage-based billing

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Post by gpm »

larschdk wrote: post #151
kristjansson wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that only applies to held-over users on the annual plan: > Users on annual Pro or Pro+ plans will remain on their existing plan with premium request-based pricing until their plan expires, however, model multipliers will increase on June 1 (see table).

There will surely be corresponding, different AI credit costs for each model.

"AI credits" are just US cents. The cost per model is here - and it looks like it is just the API providers API cost: https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/reference/copilot-billing...

Re: GitHub Copilot is moving to usage-based billing

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Post by Hamuko »

4ndrewl wrote: post #29

"Plan prices aren’t changing.” Isn't this like saying "The Porsche you rented at $200/mo is now a Honda. But the price hasn't changed!"

Yeah, if I go to a petrol station with 50€, but only get a tenth of the amount of petrol I got last week, I may think that the price has in fact changed.

Re: GitHub Copilot is moving to usage-based billing

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Post by fud101 »

kristjansson wrote: post #100
everfrustrated wrote: post #20

Current multipliers vs from June Opus 4.6 3x -> 27x Opus 4.7 3x -> 27x GPT 5.4 1x -> 6x EDIT: only applies to annual plans

I think that only applies to held-over users on the annual plan: > Users on annual Pro or Pro+ plans will remain on their existing plan with premium request-based pricing until their plan expires, however, model multipliers will increase on June 1 (see table).

Thanks this is helpful. I am on my first month of annual Pro. Should I keep it or cancel it (ask for a refund)?
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