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Re: Microsoft and OpenAI end their exclusive and revenue-sharing deal

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It’s insane how they talk about AGI, like it was some scientifically qualifiable thing that is certain to happen any time now. When I have become the javelin Olympic Champion, I will buy a vegan ice cream to everyone with a HN account.

when i realized that sama isn't that much of an ai researcher, it became clearer that this is more akin to a group delusion for hype purposes than a real possibility

He’s a glorified portfolio manager (questionable how good he actually is given the results vs Anthropic and how quickly they closed the valuation gap with far less money invested) + expert hype man to raise money for risky projects.

Re: Microsoft and OpenAI end their exclusive and revenue-sharing deal

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post #40

It’s insane how they talk about AGI, like it was some scientifically qualifiable thing that is certain to happen any time now. When I have become the javelin Olympic Champion, I will buy a vegan ice cream to everyone with a HN account.

At this point, AGI is either here, or perpetually two years away, depending on your definition.

Full Self-Driving 2.0

Re: Microsoft and OpenAI end their exclusive and revenue-sharing deal

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> OpenAI has contracted to purchase an incremental $250B of Azure services, and Microsoft will no longer have a right of first refusal to be OpenAI’s compute provider. Azure is effectively OpenAI's personal compute cluster at this scale.

I wonder how this figure was settled. Is it based on consumer pricing? Can't Microsoft and OpenAI just make a number up, aside from a minimum to cover operating costs? When is the number just a marketing ploy to make it seem huge, important and inevitable (and too big to fail)?

Re: Microsoft and OpenAI end their exclusive and revenue-sharing deal

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any sufficiently complex LLM is indistinguishable from AGI

> Any sufficiently complex LLM is indistinguishable from AGI Isn't this tautology? We've de facto defined AGI as a "sufficiently complex LLM."

Yes! Same logic as the financials, in which the companies pass back and forth the same $200 Billion promissory note.

Re: Microsoft and OpenAI end their exclusive and revenue-sharing deal

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post #40

It’s insane how they talk about AGI, like it was some scientifically qualifiable thing that is certain to happen any time now. When I have become the javelin Olympic Champion, I will buy a vegan ice cream to everyone with a HN account.

At this point, AGI is either here, or perpetually two years away, depending on your definition.

It's always been this way. I remember, speaking of Microsoft, when they came to my school around 2002 or so giving a talk on AI. They very confidently stated that AGI had already been "solved", we know exactly how to do it, only problem is the hardware. But they estimated that would come in about ten years...

Re: Microsoft and OpenAI end their exclusive and revenue-sharing deal

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post #33

It’s insane how they talk about AGI, like it was some scientifically qualifiable thing that is certain to happen any time now. When I have become the javelin Olympic Champion, I will buy a vegan ice cream to everyone with a HN account.

Do the investments make sense if AGI is not less than 10 years away?

Best way to achieve AGI: Redefine AGI.

Re: Microsoft and OpenAI end their exclusive and revenue-sharing deal

#59

It’s insane how they talk about AGI, like it was some scientifically qualifiable thing that is certain to happen any time now. When I have become the javelin Olympic Champion, I will buy a vegan ice cream to everyone with a HN account.

AGI is right around the corner, and we're all going to be rich, there's going to be abundance for everyone, universal high income, everyone will live in a penthouse...

...just please stop burning our warehouses and blocking our datacenters.

Re: Microsoft and OpenAI end their exclusive and revenue-sharing deal

#60

It’s insane how they talk about AGI, like it was some scientifically qualifiable thing that is certain to happen any time now. When I have become the javelin Olympic Champion, I will buy a vegan ice cream to everyone with a HN account.

Where do I sign up?
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