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Tim Cook Is Leaving. Good

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Re: Tim Cook Is Leaving. Good

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Post by LtWorf »

Noaidi wrote: post #21
eddieroger wrote: post #9

It is so easy to sit on and critique from the sidelines. Steve Jobs had a passion for product, and it showed - he pushed the teams to make things he approved of, and that was the measure. Tim Cook had a passion for growth, and as the article states, Apple's income now rival some GDPs. They're different people with different drives. In fact, Jobs told Cook not to do what he would do, but do the right thing, and to Coo…

> and to Cook that was grow the company. If you do not see this as teh problem with Tim Cook then I have a gold bar to give you. https://www.macrumors.com/2025/08/07/tim-cook-gift-to-trump/ I want ethical companies that grow because of good products, not because of market capture and bribes.

> I want ethical companies

This will never exist.

We should want regulated and lawful companies, which we don't have right now.

Re: Tim Cook Is Leaving. Good

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Post by AnonC »

I can’t help but agree on the points made in this post. I don’t want the pain of Windows (or another non-Apple OS), but Apple isn’t making it easy to recommend its software on the quality front. If John Ternus puts more focus on what Craig Federighi and Eddy Cue aren’t doing, there is a chance for Apple to make its software better.

As I said in another comment here, when things just work, it seems magical and awesome. But the same areas where deep integration creates the magic is often riddled with a lot of bugs. I report many issues to Apple and follow up those reports with updated information, but most of them don’t get any attention. I don’t have a mental model for where all the feedback and issues go to and who looks at them or takes ownership of them.

Re: Tim Cook Is Leaving. Good

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Post by sschueller »

Tim cook did his job well. He increase stock value over and over again for the delight of the shareholders. He also increased the moat as large as possible.

If you want a better product you will not get it from a publicly traded company.

Sure you may claim that a bad product is bad for a company in the long term and it is. However short term stock increases are far more desirable than long term stability and growth.

Re: Tim Cook Is Leaving. Good

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Post by jmyeet »

I will say that UI designers left to their own devices will tend to make change for the sake of change. And it's annoying.

Safari on iOS is a prime example of this. I used to be able to switch from tabs to private browsing. Now I have to go through a tab groups abstraction that I didn't ask for, can't turn off and don't want. Want to open a new tab? Well, that too has gotten annoying. You have to tap near the bottom to bring up the address bar and then you can bring up the tabs screens (that used to be more accessible) or click on the new 3 dot menu on the bottom right. Who asked for this?

I prefer my address at the top. It's like desktop. That's another unwelcome change. This change also infected Settings where the search is hovering near the bottom now for some reason. This seems to be part of some wider UI fad because Google Finance now does this too. Just. Stop.

Oh I used to just tap the top of the screen to scroll to the top in Safari too. Now I accidentally hit the notch and go to some other unrealted app now. So thanks for that, Apple.

I abhor Face ID. So many false negatives. so unreliable. So many more times I have to put my passcode in. Just give me Touch ID. Put it on the home button (like the iPad Air) or do what Samsung did a decade ago and put a sensor on the back. That works really well.

Oh the Apple Watch isn't immune to annoying and pointless UI changes too. Even selecting an activity like Outdoor Walk now has a really weird scroll behavior where the "play" button doesn't come up until you stop scrolling. Why? WHY? The old interface was fine.

Leadership is keeping these kinds of things in check. Otherwise people make changes to get promoted,, basically. Or it's just ego to reinvent something in their image. Steve Jobs kept Johnny Ive in check. Tim Cook allowed the 12" macbook to happen. As well as the Touch Bar and the butterly keyboard (allegedly to save 0.5mm in thickness). But at least those got corrected.

And of course Siri is still terrible and almost seems like abandonware at this point.

Re: Tim Cook Is Leaving. Good

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Post by danabramov »

tonhe wrote: post #14
danabramov wrote: post #5

"But here's the thing" Is it really so hard to write your articles by yourself? The blandest tone imaginable, all the usual LLM tells in the sentence structure. You are polluting HN and the broader internet by posting this publicly.

Honestly... I think I've been reading too much AI content, because I 100% wrote that. I do use AI to help make outlines and gather thoughts. But the Article was written by me.

If you're being honest, I apologize. I find it a bit difficult to believe but maybe it's really that the style is everywhere now. Partially it's sentence pattern cliches:

>Not just sell. Not just ship. Use.

>The honest read ... The hopeful read ...

>The grumbling isn’t about features. It’s about the texture of using the products.

>Yes, Apple Silicon is incredible. Yes, the Watch saved lives. Yes, the iPhone got better cameras

There's also bizarre not-quite-landing uncanny metaphors that LLMs love to do:

>Today's Apple ships friction and treats it like background radiation.

>The texture changed.

>And the rot follows that exact line.

If you're surrounded by this kind of writing, it may be good to get other inspirations. It's bad!

Re: Tim Cook Is Leaving. Good

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Post by trimethylpurine »

pjmlp wrote: post #39
eddieroger wrote: post #9

It is so easy to sit on and critique from the sidelines. Steve Jobs had a passion for product, and it showed - he pushed the teams to make things he approved of, and that was the measure. Tim Cook had a passion for growth, and as the article states, Apple's income now rival some GDPs. They're different people with different drives. In fact, Jobs told Cook not to do what he would do, but do the right thing, and to Coo…

When we pay premium, we expect premium.

Sadly, too many of us continue to go back for more after our expectations aren't met. This makes it an obvious decision to reduce quality below premium.

Re: Tim Cook Is Leaving. Good

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Post by drcongo »

sgt wrote: post #2

> Your AirPods just connected to the wrong device. Again. > iMessage is taking twenty minutes to sync a message between your laptop and your phone sitting six inches apart. HomeKit forgot the kitchen lightbulb exists, and will remember it again in three hours like nothing happened. I've literally seen nothing of this happen (or to my family all on Apple devices). While I don't doubt they do happen to some unfortunate…

AirPods and iMessage, agreed, never had a problem. The Home app though remains Apple's unloved ginger stepchild - every major OS release I'm hopeful that they've done something about it, but they never do. I'm starting to think Apple's internal view of Home / HomeKit is that they wish they'd never built it in the first place.

Re: Tim Cook Is Leaving. Good

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Post by Bishonen88 »

tonhe wrote: post #14
danabramov wrote: post #5

"But here's the thing" Is it really so hard to write your articles by yourself? The blandest tone imaginable, all the usual LLM tells in the sentence structure. You are polluting HN and the broader internet by posting this publicly.

Honestly... I think I've been reading too much AI content, because I 100% wrote that. I do use AI to help make outlines and gather thoughts. But the Article was written by me.

13x 'not ' found in that article. That's what AI's love to write.

This article on the other hand has 1: https://routerjockey.com/introducing-graphiant-the-future-of...

I don't mind either way, but reading through the Tim Cook one without opening the comments on HN, I was 99.9% sure I'm reading AI.

Re: Tim Cook Is Leaving. Good

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Post by blueTiger33 »

Tim Cook was the guy Steve choosed. Don't know him personally, but he is leaving a great company behind. The new CEO has a lot to prove. Design wise, have heard he has made some mistakes but Apple ability to improve, will not fall behind. Hope he is a fighter, a pirate ;)
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