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Wow, Hamas is _more_ justified? The Nazi's invaded Poland. Doesn't get more stolen than that. Also again: one is slaughtering civilians, the other is fighting the army. This is not even comparable.
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The 1944 Warsaw Uprising, in Color
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#33Harrowing. For those who don't know, the Uprising was a planned resistance action to expel the Nazis from Warsaw. Supposedly it was planned in collaboration with the Russians. But the Russian army stood down while the resistance fought alone for two months. This allowed the Germans to regroup, fight back, and eventually to destroy the city, and most of the resistance itself.
It was definitely not planned with the Soviets, for multiple reasons: - the Poles of the AK (London government loyal) were not the communist faction (Lublin government loyal), and saw the insurrection as the last chance to get a Poland out of the Soviet sphere of influence post WWII – especially after the publicization of Katyn; - even if they had wanted, Stalin had zero interest in giving a hand to London-loyal Pole…
> So the London-loyal Poles were in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation, and at least they were able to go with a glorious bang.
Many argue this uprising is nothing to be proud of and the crime of the leadership with devastating results: ~200k civilians went with this bang, and city completely wiped out.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
They were fighting the German army. Hamas mostly and intentionally gunned down civilizations and then took some hostages for good measure.
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Lots of Polish people on this website, including me.
What makes you think you're in a position to qualify the morality of the deaths of my not-so-distant relatives at the hands of Nazi invaders?
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
It was definitely not planned with the Soviets, for multiple reasons: - the Poles of the AK (London government loyal) were not the communist faction (Lublin government loyal), and saw the insurrection as the last chance to get a Poland out of the Soviet sphere of influence post WWII – especially after the publicization of Katyn; - even if they had wanted, Stalin had zero interest in giving a hand to London-loyal Pole…
> So the London-loyal Poles were in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation, and at least they were able to go with a glorious bang. Many argue this uprising is nothing to be proud of and the crime of the leadership with devastating results: ~200k civilians went with this bang, and city completely wiped out.
This is a question I don't feel qualified enough to lean one way or the other.
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#39These two in particular: https://www.barwypowstania.pl/photos/22 https://www.barwypowstania.pl/photos/51 and the world is stupid enough to repeat the endless cycle of violence.
We have a monument commemorating children fighting in the uprising: https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomnik_Ma%C5%82ego_Powsta%C5%8...
I used to live nearby and was always weirded out by the statue just being one of the required two-minute stops for all the tourist groups. A short monologue, then move on to the next attraction...
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#40Don't forget that Germans were able to quickly find people they wanted to exterminate by going through municipal and church records. Today it will be much easier thanks to push for Digital ID. Choose demographic and the dashboard will show where everyone is and their connections.