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Eden AI – European Alternative to OpenRouter

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Re: Eden AI – European Alternative to OpenRouter

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Post by mft_ »

neya wrote: post #4

So, there is 0 differentiation from this and OpenRouter. The only difference is just that it is European in name only, but underlying services are not. And the pricing also isn't any cheaper. So, why would I spend my development hours switching to this than just stay on OpenRouter? Just because it's an "EU" alternative? The webpage doesn't even comply with basic GDPR requirements. Sigh.

Indeed; a "European" router serving mostly US models is (deliberately?) missing the point.

Re: Eden AI – European Alternative to OpenRouter

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Post by RadiozRadioz »

reneberlin wrote: post #2

This website doesn't even comply with general basic standards for imprint and responsible persons and firms behind it. So if i proxy this misbehaviour to the rest of the whole: european answer-claim ... and the nameservers are on cloudflare. goodbye.

Out of curiosity, what are "general basic standards for imprint and responsible persons and firms behind it" ?

Re: Eden AI – European Alternative to OpenRouter

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Post by ascorbic »

reneberlin wrote: post #2

This website doesn't even comply with general basic standards for imprint and responsible persons and firms behind it. So if i proxy this misbehaviour to the rest of the whole: european answer-claim ... and the nameservers are on cloudflare. goodbye.

It's not a German website, so it doesn't need an imprint

Re: Eden AI – European Alternative to OpenRouter

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Post by wongarsu »

reneberlin wrote: post #2

This website doesn't even comply with general basic standards for imprint and responsible persons and firms behind it. So if i proxy this misbehaviour to the rest of the whole: european answer-claim ... and the nameservers are on cloudflare. goodbye.

Even their legal documents (terms of use, DPA, privacy agreement) just lists them as

    Eden AI
    France
    contact@edenai.co
The terms of use start with the words "Eden AI is a French company" but as far as I can tell there is no registered French company with that name. There is a likely unrelated British company of that name, and a French "Eden AI SAS" that was closed five months ago that helped companies create and execute workshops

Edit: looking more closely, it's the company orginally known as "Datagenius SAS" based in Lyon, France. They changed their name to "Eden AI SAS" in 2022 (or maybe it's an alternative name? I am not too familiar with how this works in France), and their datagenius homepage links to the submitted page. https://www.datagenius.fr/ If anyone wants to send them a letter, the registered address of the company is 142 Rue De Crequi, F-69003 Lyon

That took slightly more work to figure out than I would expect from a website that has the word "transparency" in the headline, but at least they do exist

Re: Eden AI – European Alternative to OpenRouter

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Post by poisonborz »

This is what happens when there is actual political pressure, need from society, and EU making big mission statements - and then there is silence. Random grifters and vibe coders will come up to fill the demand of unsuspecting masses with low quality or scam products with an EU sticker on it. Or even the wolf in sheep costume, like aws.eu

Re: Eden AI – European Alternative to OpenRouter

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Post by PufPufPuf »

RadiozRadioz wrote: post #14
reneberlin wrote: post #2

This website doesn't even comply with general basic standards for imprint and responsible persons and firms behind it. So if i proxy this misbehaviour to the rest of the whole: european answer-claim ... and the nameservers are on cloudflare. goodbye.

Out of curiosity, what are "general basic standards for imprint and responsible persons and firms behind it" ?

Identifying the legal entity behind the service. So you know who you're actually doing business with.

Re: Eden AI – European Alternative to OpenRouter

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Post by alexmercerdev »

swiftcoder wrote: post #16

Under what circumstances would one pay a 5.5% premium so that an EU-built (but not EU hosted) routing layer could proxy to US/chinese model providers?

Practically, I think the premium only makes sense if the routing layer gives you something operational: one contract/invoice, EU support/legal process, spend caps, audit logs, maybe provider fallback. If it's just a pass-through to the same US/China model endpoints with +5.5%, I don't see much reason for devs to switch on price or sovereignty grounds.
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