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Re: Tell HN: An app is silently installing itself on my iPhone every day

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Do you use iCloud drive? This might be a stretch as I am taking a guess at the implementation, but apps can sync with iCloud Drive and I keep getting app folders showing up after telling it not sync but the prefs reset after certain states(not quite sure when/how)-- it then creates a new sync folder when interacting with the app again. (after having turned off sync and deleting the folder -- once it resets) I am wond…

It still doesn't make sense why the app started silently downloading itself 3 days ago when I haven't had it installed in over a year. I do use iCloud drive but do not see anything related to the app inside of it.

Re: Tell HN: An app is silently installing itself on my iPhone every day

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post #51

Do you use iCloud drive? This might be a stretch as I am taking a guess at the implementation, but apps can sync with iCloud Drive and I keep getting app folders showing up after telling it not sync but the prefs reset after certain states(not quite sure when/how)-- it then creates a new sync folder when interacting with the app again. (after having turned off sync and deleting the folder -- once it resets) I am wond…

It still doesn't make sense why the app started silently downloading itself 3 days ago when I haven't had it installed in over a year. I do use iCloud drive but do not see anything related to the app inside of it.

Did you update iOS before it started happening? Wondering if they may have introduced a regression that is now trying to re-sync everything after the last update (sync files may be hidden, I set files to always show)

Re: Tell HN: An app is silently installing itself on my iPhone every day

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post #21

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Yeah, I think the latter is more likely than the former. Perhaps a server side bug that's silently downloading the app on any device that's installed it previously?

But why this one specific app and no others?

Headspace leaves health data, that's where my first guess would be

Re: Tell HN: An app is silently installing itself on my iPhone every day

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> The fact that it’s happening shows that they always had the ability...

That may not be the case here, and certainly isn't the assumption we can make more generally.

We regularly see regressions in platform security.

Re: Tell HN: An app is silently installing itself on my iPhone every day

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At least they're exposing their nefarious plans for the purposes of... Offering people mental healthcare? It's probably just some Apple bug.

Why did a mental healthcare company have the ability to exploit this? Do you think they accidentally found this 5 seconds before their exploit was launched or do you think they might have actually put some effort into doing this since they are an organization of people.

I am pretty skeptical it’s intentional. Very risky move. If they make apple look bad they can say goodbye to getting featured in the app store, or could even get pulled from the store completely.

I can see a fucked up ceo greenlighting a trick to get their app installed on your phone without asking. I can’t really see them having it repeatedly download.

I suspect it’s a bug, or worst case a backdoor that’s been triggered with a commercial app instead of spyware accidentally or “accidentally”.

Re: Tell HN: An app is silently installing itself on my iPhone every day

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post #51

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It still doesn't make sense why the app started silently downloading itself 3 days ago when I haven't had it installed in over a year. I do use iCloud drive but do not see anything related to the app inside of it.

Did you update iOS before it started happening? Wondering if they may have introduced a regression that is now trying to re-sync everything after the last update (sync files may be hidden, I set files to always show)

I updated after noticing the issue
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