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Flickr: The first and last great photo platform

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Re: Flickr: The first and last great photo platform

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Post by notlion »

GaryBluto wrote: post #18
notlion wrote: post #13

I was a Flickr member for many years. It was the only photo sharing website that emphasized the art of photography and also felt like a real community where I actually made connections with and discovered like minded photographers. The focus was on the photography and it didn't play games to keep me locked into the platform ( cough Instagram) Nowadays, I have a locally hosted Immich instance. It's great as personal p…

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> People have been able to do anything they want to copies of things uploaded to the internet for ages.

People, yes. The possibility of one person using a copyrighted work that I uploaded to the internet is very different in scope to that of a corporation with billions of dollars in funding using the same work to generate a product that automates the creation of similar such works.

Re: Flickr: The first and last great photo platform

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Post by givemeethekeys »

neoCrimeLabs wrote: post #14

Great? I remember that time I reported someone for reposting my images. Flickr's response was deleting my profile, all of my photos, and not responding to any of my attempts to contact them. On the upside, it was a good lesson to not trust service providers.

Was this before or after Yahoo! purchased! them?!

Re: Flickr: The first and last great photo platform

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Post by esafak »

jeffbee wrote: post #10

To me, Flickr is the better Photo.net. Photo.net has been around since 1993 and apparently is still running, but it never was a site where you could just collect your own work and share them the way you wanted. It would be interesting to read about how Flickr succeeded against an older, established competitor.

photo.net is the water cooler. flickr is the portfolio. They're different. I never talked to anyone on flickr. I'm still friends with people from photo.net

Re: Flickr: The first and last great photo platform

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Post by gasull »

mystraline wrote: post #19
GaryBluto wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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How hard is it to understand "I want to share what Ive done, but I dont want predatory companies taking my work, profiting on it, and offering absolutely nothing in return."

It will end up distilled into open-weights models.

Re: Flickr: The first and last great photo platform

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Post by dicksicksknfis »

GaryBluto wrote: post #18
notlion wrote: post #13

I was a Flickr member for many years. It was the only photo sharing website that emphasized the art of photography and also felt like a real community where I actually made connections with and discovered like minded photographers. The focus was on the photography and it didn't play games to keep me locked into the platform ( cough Instagram) Nowadays, I have a locally hosted Immich instance. It's great as personal p…

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You cannot understand the fact that people don’t work their work stolen by corporations to train their very-much-for-profit bullshit generators… I mean, AI models?

Please.

Re: Flickr: The first and last great photo platform

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Post by ashtonshears »

GaryBluto wrote: post #18
notlion wrote: post #13

I was a Flickr member for many years. It was the only photo sharing website that emphasized the art of photography and also felt like a real community where I actually made connections with and discovered like minded photographers. The focus was on the photography and it didn't play games to keep me locked into the platform ( cough Instagram) Nowadays, I have a locally hosted Immich instance. It's great as personal p…

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For some, feeding the beast is unpleasant

Re: Flickr: The first and last great photo platform

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Post by Renaud »

GaryBluto wrote: post #18
notlion wrote: post #13

I was a Flickr member for many years. It was the only photo sharing website that emphasized the art of photography and also felt like a real community where I actually made connections with and discovered like minded photographers. The focus was on the photography and it didn't play games to keep me locked into the platform ( cough Instagram) Nowadays, I have a locally hosted Immich instance. It's great as personal p…

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No they haven’t. Copyright protected you against your work being used in ways you did not agree to.

Enforcement is another things but photographers and artists have had ways to push back against illicit use of their work, notably by larger corporations. Licensing is an industry based on this protection alone.

The difference is that now, large corporations with plenty of money are able to just swallow other people’s work and pretend it’s “fair use” and derivative enough that they wash their hand of the fact that their models, that they charge lots of money for, would not be able to output anything they were not trained on. At least you could argue that a large image model would have a hard time creating a picture of a cat if it hadn’t been fed pictures of cats that belonged to other people than the company producing the model.

I don’t know if training on the world’s data without compensation is fair or not. There are valid arguments both ways, but as an individual, it should still be your choice whether you want to allow your work to be used in ways you do not agree with.

I think people at large expect at least recognition, and if possible, compensation, for their creations.

When a consumption system is built around providing neither, I don’t think we should be surprised that people feel slighted.

Re: Flickr: The first and last great photo platform

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Post by jrflowers »

GaryBluto wrote: post #18
notlion wrote: post #13

I was a Flickr member for many years. It was the only photo sharing website that emphasized the art of photography and also felt like a real community where I actually made connections with and discovered like minded photographers. The focus was on the photography and it didn't play games to keep me locked into the platform ( cough Instagram) Nowadays, I have a locally hosted Immich instance. It's great as personal p…

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> I cannot understand this mindset. People have been able to do anything they want to copies of things uploaded to the internet for ages.

Right? On the one hand there was the mystery of what might happen with your photos and on the other there is the plain, inescapable knowledge that they will be donated to like four dude’s tech companies to make money off of without acknowledgement or compensation. That’s basically the same thing

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