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Which one is more important: more parameters or more computation? (2021)

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Re: Which one is more important: more parameters or more computation? (2021)

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This reminds me of https://dnhkng.github.io/posts/rys/ David looks into the LLM finds the thinking layers and cut duplicates then and put them back to back. This increases the LLM scores with basically no over head. Very interesting read.

Jeff Dean says models hallucinate because their training data is "squishy."

But what's in the context window is sharp, the exact text or video frame right in front of them.

The goal is to bring more of the world into that context.

Compression gives it intuition. Context gives it precision.

Imagine if we could extract the model's reasoning core and plug it anywhere we want.

Re: Which one is more important: more parameters or more computation? (2021)

#6
The answer should be obvious that its both.

Zurada was one of our AI textbook that makes it visual that right from a simple classifier to a large language model, we are mathematically creating a shape(, that the signal interacts with). More parameters would mean shape can be curved in more ways and more data means the curve is getting hi-definition.

They reach something with data, treating neural network as blackbox, which could be derived mathematically using the information we know.

Re: Which one is more important: more parameters or more computation? (2021)

#7

This reminds me of https://dnhkng.github.io/posts/rys/ David looks into the LLM finds the thinking layers and cut duplicates then and put them back to back. This increases the LLM scores with basically no over head. Very interesting read.

Jeff Dean says models hallucinate because their training data is "squishy." But what's in the context window is sharp, the exact text or video frame right in front of them. The goal is to bring more of the world into that context. Compression gives it intuition. Context gives it precision. Imagine if we could extract the model's reasoning core and plug it anywhere we want.

LLMs "hallucinate" because they are stochastic processes predicting the next word without any guarantees at being correct or truthful. It's literally an unavoidable fact unless we change the modelling approach. Which very few people are bothering to attempt right now.

Training data quality does matter but even with "perfect" data and a prompt in the training data it can still happen. LLMs don't actually know anything and they also don't know what they don't know.

https://arxiv.org/abs/2401.11817

Re: Which one is more important: more parameters or more computation? (2021)

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Selective training data, lora fine tuning or MOE are other solutionsZ Sure, creating a model with 100 billion parameters will yield good results, but it’s sort of like employing a million random people to play darts. Or shooting sparrows with A nuclear bomb.

Re: Which one is more important: more parameters or more computation? (2021)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jeff Dean says models hallucinate because their training data is "squishy." But what's in the context window is sharp, the exact text or video frame right in front of them. The goal is to bring more of the world into that context. Compression gives it intuition. Context gives it precision. Imagine if we could extract the model's reasoning core and plug it anywhere we want.

LLMs "hallucinate" because they are stochastic processes predicting the next word without any guarantees at being correct or truthful. It's literally an unavoidable fact unless we change the modelling approach. Which very few people are bothering to attempt right now. Training data quality does matter but even with "perfect" data and a prompt in the training data it can still happen. LLMs don't actually know anything…

> they also don't know what they don't know

they sort of do tho:

https://transformer-circuits.pub/2025/introspection/index.ht...

Re: Which one is more important: more parameters or more computation? (2021)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

LLMs "hallucinate" because they are stochastic processes predicting the next word without any guarantees at being correct or truthful. It's literally an unavoidable fact unless we change the modelling approach. Which very few people are bothering to attempt right now. Training data quality does matter but even with "perfect" data and a prompt in the training data it can still happen. LLMs don't actually know anything…

> they also don't know what they don't know they sort of do tho: https://transformer-circuits.pub/2025/introspection/index.ht...

I won't quibble even though I likely should. Have to remember this is HN and companies need to shill their work otherwise ... Yes.

I will play along and assume this is sound. 10-40% +/- 10% is along the lines of "sort of" in a completely unreliable, unguaranteed and unproven way sure.

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