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I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Except the school paid royalties for that specific book. Every book. The money was distributed. Writers, publishers and so on. The normal stuff. Or if you had to buy the book yourself, same thing, distributed, royalties paid.

So your complaint is that they didn't pay for training data by buying every book found online? That does seem more reasonable, but makes public libraries also evil.

Except the libraries pay the fees of the books, they only serve a dedicated local region of people and by loaning a book, you will know the author of the book.

For LLMs the transformative part is then removing the copyright info and serving it to you as OpenAI whatever.

Sure, you can query multiple books at the same time and the technology is godlike. But the underlying issue remains. Without the original content, the LLM is useless. Someone took all the books, feed them in and didn't pay anything back to the authors.

I'm not sure whether arguing in good faith here. This information you could easily check for yourself too. The problem is not the information itself. It's the massive machinery that steals all the works and one day we are staring at the paywall. And the artists are still not funded. I'd rather just do something nice offline in the future.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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You are absolutely right. Seriously though, I do think that is the case. It would be self-righteous to argue otherwise. It's just the scale and the nature of this, that makes it so repulsive. For my taste, copying something without permission, is stealing. I don't care what a judge somewhere thinks of it. Using someone's good will for profit is disgusting. And I hope we all get to profit from it someday, not just a s…

I understand but I think this will be quite a quaint idea soon in all honesty. Imagine these things are able to progress the world of science, math, physics, and whatever else (they already are) and we stopped them because someone didn't make enough royalties first. That to me would be more repulsive. We stop/slow the progress of all humanity because there wasn't enough temporary gain for x individual who wrote y boo…

Yeah, it's not an easy puzzle piece. How far are we going to go in the name of science and progress again? Are you buying it, that it's all for the greater good? Quite a lot of money involved here. Everyone wants a piece of it. But I digress. Dropping the big bomb, stealing the lands and riches of the natives, using slaves and colonies to power the whole civilization into a new era might be powerful and efficient. But it doesn't make it right. I don't buy the narrative. Do no evil until you can no longer say no?

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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I have enterprise plans for all AI services except Google. GitHub Copilot in VS Code is the best I have used so far. I hear a lot of complaints from people who are holding it wrong. In a single day I can have a beautiful greenfield app deployed. One dev. One day. Something that would have taken weeks with two teams bumping into each other. It's fully documented. Beautiful code. I read the reasoning prompts as it flows by to get an idea of what is going on. I work in phases and review the code and working product quickly after that. Minimal issues.

I'm an executive, the devs complaining are getting retrained or put on the chopping block.

My rockstars are now random contractor devs from Vietnam. The aloof FTE grey beards saying "I don't know, it doesn't work very good on X." Are getting a talking to or being sidelined/canned. So far most of my grey beards are adapting pretty well.

I'm not waiting on people to write code any more. No way in hell.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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If you don’t have a very strong mental model for what you are working on Claude can very easily guide in you into building the wrong thing. For example I’m working on a huge data migration right now. The data has to be migrated correctly. If there are any issues I want to fail fast and loud. Claude hates that philosophy. No matter how many different ways I add my reasons and instructions to stop it to the context, it…

> Claude has no taste and its opinions are mostly those of the most prolific bloggers. I often think that LLMs are like a reddit that can talk. The more I use them, the more I find this impression to be true - they have encyclopedic knowledge at a superficial level, the approximate judgement and maturity of a teenager, and the short-term memory of a parakeet. If I ask for something, I get the statistical average opin…

Holding it wrong.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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> Or just don't use AI to write code. Anecdata, but I'm still finding CC to be absolutely outstanding at writing code. It's regularly writing systems-level code that would take me months to write by hand in hours, with minimal babysitting, basically no "specs" - just giving it coherent sane direction: like to make sure it tests things in several different ways, for several different cases, including performance, comp…

But, how do you know the code is good? If you do spot checks, that is woefully inadequate. I have lost count of the number of times when, poring over code a SOTA LLM has produced, I notice a lot of subtle but major issues (and many glaring ones as well), issues a cursory look is unlikely to pick up on. And if you are spending more time going over the code, how is that a massive speed improvement like you make it seem…

Way better than the random India dev output. I seriously don't know what everyone around here is doing. All I see are complaints while I produce the output of ten devs. Clean code, solid design.

Spend a few hours writing context files. Spend the rest of the week sipping bourbon.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

#546

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did you set your 4.7 to xhigh or max effort? anything else is basically not worth your time...

Why would I set 4.7 to xhigh or max when the original 4.6 was doing just fine with medium and high?

Inflation

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

#547

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What in the mental gymnastics? They just stole everyone's hard work over decades to make this or it wouldn't have been useful at all.

That's a statement. The comment you are replying to had actual reasoning behind his claim. Do you have any actual reasoning behind yours?

Let's not ignore the entirety of reality and what has been going on for the last few years to defend a pestilence on mankind you probably have stock invested in. I'm not going to acknowledge how insane of an argument that is you're making. It's like you heard of zero leaks, zero law suits, zero open source complaints. Zero anything. Just either intentionally or unintentionally astroturfing.

Thanks.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

#548

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Right, which isn't what we're discussing, since I mentioned "across multiple providers" in every comment about this topic. Those closed weight models aren't available like we're discussing. They're only available from the vendor that created them.

The largest qwen model is similar so I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make. The only ones available are the open weight ones which are the smaller variants and nowhere near within 20% of the closed frontier models.

The largest open models are within 20%; they're likely within 10%. Go actually try them and stop making outdated assumptions. You don't need to invest a lot of money either, just pick your favorite vendor, and send out a few prompts.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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But, how do you know the code is good? If you do spot checks, that is woefully inadequate. I have lost count of the number of times when, poring over code a SOTA LLM has produced, I notice a lot of subtle but major issues (and many glaring ones as well), issues a cursory look is unlikely to pick up on. And if you are spending more time going over the code, how is that a massive speed improvement like you make it seem…

Way better than the random India dev output. I seriously don't know what everyone around here is doing. All I see are complaints while I produce the output of ten devs. Clean code, solid design. Spend a few hours writing context files. Spend the rest of the week sipping bourbon.

So what have you released?

10x means you could have built something that would have taken 4 or 5 years in the time you've had since Opus 4.5 came out.

Where's your operating system, game engine, new programming language, or complex SaaS app?

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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I'm confused. If you have detailed, specific expectations, why aren't using the best model available? Even if you were using Opus 4.7, I would inquire if you're using high/xhigh effort by default. Feels crazy to me for people to use anything other than the best available.

> Feels crazy to me for people to use anything other than the best available. Not everyone has unlimited budgets to burn on tokens.

Yeah but in a discussion about technology it’s a little silly. It’s like someone complaining about their phone and then finding out they still use a Nokia.
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