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New 10 GbE USB adapters are cooler, smaller, cheaper

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Re: New 10 GbE USB adapters are cooler, smaller, cheaper

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Post by oliwarner »

t312227 wrote: post #48
topspin wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That link notes: "Card supports 10Gbit/s and 10/100/1000/2500/5000/10000Mbit/s Ethernet" Nice to see; some NICs are shedding 10/100 support. Apparently, it's not necessary to do this, even in a low cost device.

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Is that really true? If so, is there a saner way to handle this than upgrade all the things to 10GBE? Like a POE ethernet condom that interfaces with both network and devices at native max speeds without the core network having to degrade?

Re: New 10 GbE USB adapters are cooler, smaller, cheaper

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Post by mort96 »

All these USB version names. I used to know what they all meant, but then the USB IF went ahead and renamed them all and made a bunch of versions have the same name and renamed some versions to have the same name as the old name of other versions.

I have absolutely no idea what anyone means when they say USB 3.2 gen 2x2. I used to know what USB 3.2 meant but it's certainly not that.

Re: New 10 GbE USB adapters are cooler, smaller, cheaper

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Post by HHad3 »

t312227 wrote: post #48
topspin wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That link notes: "Card supports 10Gbit/s and 10/100/1000/2500/5000/10000Mbit/s Ethernet" Nice to see; some NICs are shedding 10/100 support. Apparently, it's not necessary to do this, even in a low cost device.

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That is complete nonsense and not how switched networks work.

Re: New 10 GbE USB adapters are cooler, smaller, cheaper

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Post by the_mitsuhiko »

t312227 wrote: post #48
topspin wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That link notes: "Card supports 10Gbit/s and 10/100/1000/2500/5000/10000Mbit/s Ethernet" Nice to see; some NICs are shedding 10/100 support. Apparently, it's not necessary to do this, even in a low cost device.

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That hasn't been true on switched networks in probably 20 years or so.

Re: New 10 GbE USB adapters are cooler, smaller, cheaper

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Post by moffkalast »

topspin wrote: post #5
GeertJohan wrote: post #3

A Framework expansion card was also announced this week. https://frame.work/nl/en/products/wisdpi-10g-ethernet-expans...

That link notes: "Card supports 10Gbit/s and 10/100/1000/2500/5000/10000Mbit/s Ethernet" Nice to see; some NICs are shedding 10/100 support. Apparently, it's not necessary to do this, even in a low cost device.

Lots of industrial sensors and devices only do 4 wire 100BASE-TX so if there's no fallback to that it would be a paperweight in those situations.

Re: New 10 GbE USB adapters are cooler, smaller, cheaper

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Post by eqvinox »

userbinator wrote: post #29
eqvinox wrote: post #11

Too bad this is 10Gbase-T, that energy-wasting hot-running garbage needs to die sooner rather than later. Good thing the ranges for 25Gbase-T are short enough to make it impractical for home use. (Fibre is nowhere near as "sensitive" as some people believe.)

Good thing the ranges for 25Gbase-T are short enough to make it impractical for home use. Anyone who talks about 25GBASE-T like it actually exists, doesn't know anything about what they're talking about.

Or is speaking in future terms.

40Gbase-T will never exist, sure. 25Gbase-T very likely will.

Re: New 10 GbE USB adapters are cooler, smaller, cheaper

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Post by eqvinox »

spockz wrote: post #28
eqvinox wrote: post #11

Too bad this is 10Gbase-T, that energy-wasting hot-running garbage needs to die sooner rather than later. Good thing the ranges for 25Gbase-T are short enough to make it impractical for home use. (Fibre is nowhere near as "sensitive" as some people believe.)

Is the energy consumption inherent to 10Gbase-T? Or is it that 1Gbit nics have been around forever and optimised ad infinitum? To be fair, the power consumption is also my biggest gripe with my WiFi 6 AP, they run extremely hot.

It's inherently worse than anything fibre, or even DAC cables (which are kinda cheating.) It needs a shitton of analog "magic" to work with the bandwidth limitations of copper cabling.

Re: New 10 GbE USB adapters are cooler, smaller, cheaper

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Post by whilenot-dev »

justinclift wrote: post #21
whilenot-dev wrote: post #14

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Wouldn't it be better to just buy an M.2 NVMe adapter, eg. ICY DOCK ICYNano MB861U31-1M2B[0]? [0]: https://global.icydock.com/product_247.html

That doesn't seem to be USB 4?

Is there an SSD that saturates USB3.2 Gen2 speeds and requires USB4?
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