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Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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This feels like a betrayal of their ousting of Eich in the first place. I can't imagine a world I would do this and be able to look at myself in the mirror.

I can certainly imagine such a world. I don't use Brave because I don't want to support Brendan Eich.

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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Could definitely be writing on the wall that MV2 support will be deprecated in the future but imo not necessarily a bad thing if it’s not actively developed anyways. Maintaining both MV2 & MV3 support isn’t easily sustainable long term when you factor in the need to prioritize other features. That said, if this is writing on the wall I’d hope they’ll listen to the community this time and allow the engine to be extend…

Try Zen! Firefox fork with Arc-like UX.

Zen is great and still mostly Firefox. I use standard Firefox on Android and everything syncs without hassle. The experience is so much better that personally cannot imagine using Chromium anymore. Of course I do wonder if the entire Firefox ecosystem is sustainable long-term funding wise.

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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The day Firefox drops MV2 is the day I find a new browser. We're already at <1% usershare, it's not like there's safety in numbers here

I'd be genuinely curious what you could switch to that still has MV2 because, AFAIK, Firefox is the last holdout. Brave still allows you to install uBlock & some other extensions that should technically not be supported under MV3, but they still ship it with support for those. Just heard about Helium browser, which is just dechromium + uBlock and it's still beta.

> Firefox is the last holdout.

Nope, FF is being infiltrated by adtech for last year or two. Last holdout is Safari now :)

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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I migrated from Firefox to Brave years ago, and it's been incredible. It's easy to turn off the crypto stuff and turn on more advanced privacy protection. Then it's just a fast browser with awesome adblocking. My favorite recent feature has been Brave Scriptlets, which are just little javascript functions you can run on specific sites. I've replaced most of the add ons I used with small scripts. Pretty nice. I would…

> It's easy to turn off the crypto stuff I'm living under a rock, but my first thought was that you turned off TLS.

As a developer, personally I would be worried if that wasn't my first thought when someone uses browser and crypto together :D

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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I migrated from Firefox to Brave years ago, and it's been incredible. It's easy to turn off the crypto stuff and turn on more advanced privacy protection. Then it's just a fast browser with awesome adblocking. My favorite recent feature has been Brave Scriptlets, which are just little javascript functions you can run on specific sites. I've replaced most of the add ons I used with small scripts. Pretty nice. I would…

> It's easy to turn off the crypto stuff I'm living under a rock, but my first thought was that you turned off TLS.

Instead of turning it off, you can just make it useless: https://youtu.be/M1si1y5lvkk

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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> I'd be genuinely curious what you could switch to that still has MV2 because, AFAIK, Firefox is the last holdout. My last hope is ladybird right now, I don't use Firefox or Chrome as my main browsers anymore, and use them only within temporary sandboxes. Without history, without cookies, without logins for the most part.

Ladybird supports MV2? I had no idea they have extensions.

Ladybird is many years away from being usable by a casual human. The hope is it turns out to be a great browser eventually.

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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I migrated from Firefox to Brave years ago, and it's been incredible. It's easy to turn off the crypto stuff and turn on more advanced privacy protection. Then it's just a fast browser with awesome adblocking. My favorite recent feature has been Brave Scriptlets, which are just little javascript functions you can run on specific sites. I've replaced most of the add ons I used with small scripts. Pretty nice. I would…

It's too bad that Mozilla does everything they can to alienate its users, with failed attempts to attract a different but non-existent new user-base. Without them, and with Safari being run by a company that likes to tie its software to its hardware, there's pretty much no reasonable non-Chrome-based web browsers, so it's the new Internet Explorer, and many web pages only work on it, because no one tests their web pages on anything else.

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

#38

This feels like a betrayal of their ousting of Eich in the first place. I can't imagine a world I would do this and be able to look at myself in the mirror.

The whole organization is a huge mess that doesn't really want to accept any management.

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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I migrated from Firefox to Brave years ago, and it's been incredible. It's easy to turn off the crypto stuff and turn on more advanced privacy protection. Then it's just a fast browser with awesome adblocking. My favorite recent feature has been Brave Scriptlets, which are just little javascript functions you can run on specific sites. I've replaced most of the add ons I used with small scripts. Pretty nice. I would…

I don’t see how supporting Chromium is better than not supporting an alternate rendering engine. Firefox for the end-user is fantastic.

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

#40

This feels like a betrayal of their ousting of Eich in the first place. I can't imagine a world I would do this and be able to look at myself in the mirror.

The whole organization is a huge mess that doesn't really want to accept any management.

They try to make it feel like an “us” browser, but it just comes off as a corp trying to talk cool.

You have to walk the walk too Mozilla! Saying that as a FF for years.

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