Any thoughts on how brightplan compares to some of the other apps mentioned here? It's free via work.
Looks pretty good! Give it a try and let us know how it works?
Could a Claude Code routine watch my finances?
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Re: Could a Claude Code routine watch my finances?
#92I'm surprised y'all stopped at the personal finance layer. I've been thinking for awhile that LLMs would be really effective as personal financial advisers, and this kind of hookup (plus I guess another one for investment accounts?) seems like all that's needed to bootstrap reasoning.
"You are absolutely right! This is a very deep, professional level insight. Yes, I have blown up your account but we can try more of my investment ideas. What would you like to do next?" /s
Re: Could a Claude Code routine watch my finances?
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's total insanity. Can't banks detect and ban Plaid? They should suspend/cancel customers' online access as "compromised" if they detect someone other than the user using the user's credentials to log in. All the security theatrics banks put users through and they don't check for obvious credential leaks?
Just to share -- Most of the largest banks/FIs actually work directly with Plaid. Here's a quick list of some of the major ones: JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Citibank, U.S. Bank, PNC, Capital One, Truist, TD Bank, Charles Schwab, Vanguard, Marcus by Goldman Sachs, Goldman Sachs Private Wealth, Morgan Stanley, E*TRADE, USAA, M&T, RBC, American Express, Fifth Third, Citizens, KeyBank, Huntington, Ally,…
> TD Bank
Quite the opposite in the case of TD Bank. They sued Plaid in 2020. “The bank said in the court filings that the Plaid interface dupes consumers into believing they are entering personal information into TD Bank’s trusted platform.” (They settled in 2021 without explaining the terms of settlement.)
https://financialpost.com/news/fp-street/td-bank-files-lawsu...
Re: Could a Claude Code routine watch my finances?
#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
It was all GitHub Spec Kit + Claude Opus tbh. I narrated a couple paragraphs of how I wanted to sync to flow and it knocked it out in one pass practically. Here's the initial spec it created. I started off writing to a local sqlite db instead of Supabase: https://gist.github.com/cowlby/0dbeb52403c3f3c0f1d8122505203... Edit: Here's also the DSL categorization spec. First one was string based, found it cumbersome, so s…
This is really neat, and actually pretty sophisticated. It's like a tiny fintech. How well has the cash flow prediction worked?
It's great because Claude Code generated complex analysis/models 10X better than I was familiar with.
The key was normalizing the payee/categories so we can analyze month to month, and separating fixed vs variable spend. It then did a fancy Monte Carlo simulation with the computed mean/stddev per payee. And out came T+30/T+60 estimates at P50/P80/P90.
Re: Could a Claude Code routine watch my finances?
#95I recently did this for myself using https://tiller.com/ to sync checking/credit-card transactions to a Google Sheets spreadsheet. Then a GitHub action mirrors the spreadsheet to a free Supabase database. From there, Supabase MCP or psql gives Claude/Codex access to the transactions/balances for english queries. Really impressed with their ability to find subscription patterns, abnormal patterns, etc. Also to predict…
How does Tiller get your transaction data from your bank?
Do they pull it through Plaid and the like? It's been a while since I checked them out.
Does it still entail entrusting Plaid with your web banking user credentials? How's 2FA handled?
Does Plaid still rely on screen scraping for certain financial institutions who lack formal API's? What happens if there's a bug and they inadvertently click something they shouldn't, eg. "I Agree" to a popup or something you don't consent to, or even send funds to the wrong place? I know they claim they are "read only" but afaik no bank offers the ability to set up secondary user accounts (on personal banking plans) that truly are just read only?
Do they maintain underwriten insurance or a bond or something to improve your confidence you'll be reimbursed if they, say, cause you a million+ dollars worth of financial damage?
How about the implications of letting both those parties see all your private banking data? I heard there was a class action lawsuit with allegations data was sold or shared inappropriately, any indications on what actually happened?
Or how about the clauses in your banking Terms of Service where you agree not to share your password with third parties?
I just feel queesy using a web / cloud service to manage my finances. Would prefer some client software that runs locally and talks to some kind of bank API's. Does such a thing exist in Canada? (Open Banking is supposed to be coming but I'm not clear if individuals will be able to access it for software they write themselves?) I would switch banks if it did.
These are genuine questions, I sure could use something like an API to my bank, if it were impeccably trustworthy and enforced policies of limited internal data retention once I've "downloaded" it.
Re: Could a Claude Code routine watch my finances?
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's total insanity. Can't banks detect and ban Plaid? They should suspend/cancel customers' online access as "compromised" if they detect someone other than the user using the user's credentials to log in. All the security theatrics banks put users through and they don't check for obvious credential leaks?
Just to share -- Most of the largest banks/FIs actually work directly with Plaid. Here's a quick list of some of the major ones: JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Citibank, U.S. Bank, PNC, Capital One, Truist, TD Bank, Charles Schwab, Vanguard, Marcus by Goldman Sachs, Goldman Sachs Private Wealth, Morgan Stanley, E*TRADE, USAA, M&T, RBC, American Express, Fifth Third, Citizens, KeyBank, Huntington, Ally,…
Yes, Plaid clearly has different levels of integration with different banks.
When I connect something to Chase with Plaid it is clearly a cooperative system with an OAuth-like permission dialog, and the Chase side even mentions they're tokenizing the account numbers so Plaid can't see them.
When I connect to the little bank down the street I just get a username/password dialog. Their web banking system is so primitive I'm pretty sure Plaid is just scraping it. When they introduced 2FA, Plaid became quite flaky.
Re: Could a Claude Code routine watch my finances?
#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just to share -- Most of the largest banks/FIs actually work directly with Plaid. Here's a quick list of some of the major ones: JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Citibank, U.S. Bank, PNC, Capital One, Truist, TD Bank, Charles Schwab, Vanguard, Marcus by Goldman Sachs, Goldman Sachs Private Wealth, Morgan Stanley, E*TRADE, USAA, M&T, RBC, American Express, Fifth Third, Citizens, KeyBank, Huntington, Ally,…
> TD Bank Quite the opposite in the case of TD Bank. They sued Plaid in 2020. “The bank said in the court filings that the Plaid interface dupes consumers into believing they are entering personal information into TD Bank’s trusted platform.” (They settled in 2021 without explaining the terms of settlement.) https://financialpost.com/news/fp-street/td-bank-files-lawsu...
And as of 2023 TD now has API integration with plaid so you don't need to give credentials to connect your account anymore
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/td-bank-group-and-p...
Re: Could a Claude Code routine watch my finances?
#98Obligatory hledger or beancount mention
Re: Could a Claude Code routine watch my finances?
#99I absolutely love the idea.
Problem, I don’t trust 3rd party services with access to financial data. No offense to the OP.
I wish this was open source and self-hostable. Not suggesting that OP does that since I’m sure he has to pay bills :)
I may look into doing something like this for personal use. I’ve gotten interested in creating desktop apps which store data locally. Have created a few using Claude code. It seems Plaid has some APIs for personal use.
Re: Could a Claude Code routine watch my finances?
#100Maybe my net worth is too low but I just don't see a value proposition. I don't want daily emails from LLMs and if I need updates on my investments any more often than quarterly (at most), I should probably seek safer investments. I am a bit interested in budgeting tools, but I want them to be completely deterministic. For me at least, financial planning is pretty uneventful and time spent optimizing expenses more th…
Thanks. If I could ask, what would interest you?
They said deterministic budgeting tools.