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Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Post by aaravchen »

haunter wrote: post #189

What happened to the Ubuntu Core Desktop? Snap only immutable variant (like Fedora Silverblue/Kinoite). It was delayed in 2024 and haven’t seen anything about it ever since https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/02/ubuntu-core-desktop-dela...

I think it basically died for general consumers because of the Canonical-only licensed software lock in, and consequent limited software support.

Snaps are hard coded to only be able to get snaps from the official Canonical-licensed store URL. Especially on Ubuntu Core, where everything can only be a snap. Even the commercial licensed version for embedding in products requires private companies to use a private space on the Canonical Snap store to distribute thier custom/proprietary software. Absolutely no one is willing to let Canonical become the Apple Store of thier devices, especially given thier even shittier track record.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Post by boneitis »

predkambrij wrote: post #141
notabotiswear wrote: post #33

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You can de-snap Ubuntu itself. Dunno about the this release, but till 24.4 it was simply a matter of removing some packages then holding/masking the primary snapd one, followed by manually adding the official PPAs for Mozilla’s stuff (or just use the Flatpak). Of course, there’s still the philosophical and long term issues with staying on a distro that’s promoting and continuosuly expanding the thing you dislike…

This is a bad strategy, I fell victim for. I configured so it would use apt instead of snap package, but canonical silently stopped shipping packages and I was running some packages that were not updated for a long time and debugging weird bugs, because I didn't assume that this was a problem. If one wants Ubuntu, one must accept snap. If you use apt with disallowed transition to snap, you might be stuck with old pac…

+1. I recently picked up a secondhand Framework, and, after almost 15 years of holding out with Mint + MATE, berated myself for resisting change and put in an unreasonable amount of effort trying to modernize and reacclimate to Ubuntu + GNOME 3.

It was painful, with an endless laundry list of things to troubleshoot, tinker with, and add to my digital notebook in attempt to get anything resembling a personally ergonomic workflow.

I implore anyone to just go with Mint or anything else that takes care of ripping out snaps for you if you don't want snaps (but otherwise still like or are used to most things about Ubuntu). There were too many downstream and other issues, related and unrelated, for my sanity.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Post by aaravchen »

Daviey wrote: post #21
rasengan wrote: post #3

> TPM-backed full-disk encryption This is going to be very useful for servers hosted in third party DCs.

Keeping the key in the same room as the padlock only protects against casual drive theft and secure disposal. Personally I'm more worried about someone stealing the entire server or a local threat actor. Sure, keep TPM to help with boot integrity, maybe even a factor for unlock, but things like Clevis+Tang (or Bitlock Network Unlock for our windows brethren) is essential in my opinion.

TPM locking is for ensuring the disk isn't removed from your machine. It's technically possible that someone could tap the hardware while the disk is still in your machine, but otherwise they're stuck contending with whatever other security setup you have on your machine.

The TPM locked disk encryption is more like embedding your safe in concrete with deep foundations. It doesn't affect the thickness or quality of your safe.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Post by mamcx »

sph wrote: post #85
throwa356262 wrote: post #40

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That was a lot of CVEs Goes to show that not all security bugs are memory related bugs

Not aimed at you but... no sh*t. The "Rewrite it in Rust" community never heard of the second-system effect. I'd rather use something written in a crappier language that has been battle-tested for decades, personally.

That is a bad take, because that imply "crappier language will be used for MORE decades".

Rust is an absolute improvement over C/C++ in major ways. Once there, for ALL THAT DECADES all the developers and all the code written will be spared the problems of "crappier languages.

In the short term there are adaptation issues? fine. But that will be erased (way faster than is possible with C) and suddenly, never again worry about things.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Post by marshray »

reedciccio wrote: post #148
kstenerud wrote: post #130

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> Select - Middle-click paste does not seem to work Good. It shouldn't be on by default. It's surprising behavior, too easy to fat-finger, and too disruptive when it accidentally triggers.

What???? That's the most expected feature of any *nix user since the dawn of X Window!

The X Window developers were mostly just making it up as they went along. Practically no one expects mouse buttons to work like that.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Post by reedciccio »

marshray wrote: post #245
reedciccio wrote: post #148

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What???? That's the most expected feature of any *nix user since the dawn of X Window!

The X Window developers were mostly just making it up as they went along. Practically no one expects mouse buttons to work like that.

Unix workstations had mice with 3 buttons. The Mac had only one. Windows, Amiga, Atari had two. The Unix developers had choice that others didn't have. They came up with a use that existed forever. Now someone decided to remove the default for no apparent reason. It's like the Android product managers continuing to change the color, size and gesture to answer a phone call: every release, the first call is an exercise in managing frustration.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Post by ziml77 »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #204
littlecranky67 wrote: post #75

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It is a preference - and not everyones. I always hated middle click paste, middle click is amongst the first thing I remap on my systems to do the macOS "exposé"-style of window rearrangements. Other people will have other preferences.

I hate that its somehow different from ctrl v paste, that's what makes me angry more.

That's what some people love about it. Gives them 2 clipboards. Personally I think copying into a shared space without an explicit action to do so is terrible from a security perspective, so getting rid of middle click paste by default is good to me.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Post by ziml77 »

dima55 wrote: post #13
satvikpendem wrote: post #7

What should I use if I like Ubuntu but not snap, just Debian? Or are there alternatives around? Seems like Ubuntu has the best hardware and driver support so just curious what's new in Linux land.

Debian is great, and is where the distro development actually happens. What doesn't it do that you want?

Hasn't there been reporting recently that Debian development is struggling with a lack of maintainers?

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Post by abrookewood »

rswail wrote: post #98
abrookewood wrote: post #64

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I've just moved to a Mac for the first time, after using Windows for work for decades and Linux as my primary desktop for about 3 or 4 years. It certainly takes some getting use to: - Keyboard shortcuts are all different - Doesn't seem to like my Microsoft ergonomic keyboard (lots of keys do nothing) - I really hate the dock - Limited customisation on the menu bar - I also hate the universal menu thing / menu bar in…

As a both old Linux and now decade user of MacOS, after I got used to no middle-click paste and no focus-follows-mouse: 1. Keyboard shortcuts are Emacs, Ctrl-A: start of line, E: end of line, K: kill selected or to end of line, Y to paste, etc. https://support.apple.com/en-au/102650#text 2. Karabiner elements (FOSS) fixes keyboard mappings outside of the Settings: https://karabiner-elements.pqrs.org/ 3. I have the do…

Hey thanks for those tips. I just installed Ice and Thaw is a fork that is maintained, so I'll try that out. I have my dock on the left already, and have heard about Rectangle, but haven't tried it yet.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Post by reddalo »

tuna74 wrote: post #221
reddalo wrote: post #136

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I agree. GNOME used to be perfect, now it looks and feels like it's been designed by someone who's never used a computer. I wish Ubuntu would just give up with GNOME and switch to something more sensible.

You can use something else. Kubuntu might be nice for you.

Yes, I've migrated to Kubuntu first and now I'm enjoying Linux Mint. The Cinnamon environment gives me old-school GNOME vibes. And Mint doesn't have Snap, which is also a big plus.
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