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I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by shepherdjerred »

2ndorderthought wrote: post #416
wilbur_whateley wrote: post #2

Claude with Sonnet medium effort just used 100% of my session limit, some extra dollars, thought for 53 minutes, and said: API Error: Claude's response exceeded the 32000 output token maximum. To configure this behavior, set the CLAUDE_CODE_MAX_OUTPUT_TOKENS environment variable.

I hope this doesn't come out wrong but. When this happens do agentic/vibe coders message their boss and say "sorry can't work until tomorrow?"

I write down the time I run out of tokens each day and pray my employer will pay for more

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by GoToRO »

wg0 wrote: post #202

I write detailed specs. Multifile with example code. In markdown. Then hand over to Claude Sonnet. With hard requirements listed, I found out that the generated code missed requirements, had duplicate code or even unnecessary code wrangling data (mapping objects into new objects of narrower types when won't be needed) along with tests that fake and work around to pass. So turns out that I'm not writing code but I'm r…

you are holding it wrong. For real this time.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by chaosprint »

I bought a Claude membership a few days ago. I asked him to fix a React issue—a very simple UI modification with almost no logic. He still failed to understand it. And after three attempts, the 5-hour limit was reached. This was a disaster. I had to immediately buy a CodeX membership and also tried Image2. I won't give Claude another chance.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by hunterpayne »

sarchertech wrote: post #406
janalsncm wrote: post #379

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can a person reconcile this comment with the one at the root of this thread? One person says Claude struggles to even meet the strict requirements of a spec sheet, another says Claude is doing a great job and doesn’t even need specific specs? I have my own anecdata but my comment is more about the dissonance here.

One person is rigorously checking to see if Claude is actually following the spec and one person isn’t?

One is getting paid by a marketing department program and the other isn't. Remember how much has been spent making LLMs and they have now decided that coding is its money maker. I expect any negative comment on LLM coding to be replied to by at least 2 different puppets or bots.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by jryio »

chaosprint wrote: post #423

I bought a Claude membership a few days ago. I asked him to fix a React issue—a very simple UI modification with almost no logic. He still failed to understand it. And after three attempts, the 5-hour limit was reached. This was a disaster. I had to immediately buy a CodeX membership and also tried Image2. I won't give Claude another chance.

I find it strange that you've anthropomorphized Claude but not ChatGPT seemingly based on one having a human name and the other not

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by 0xchamin »

One of the biggest problem with Claude is, it tries to do things that I don't even ask. I really like to have full control over what I do. I feel sometimes, Claude has the urgency to keep going with what it is hardcore programmed for instead waiting for my feedback. Looks like, Claude consider everything to be oneshot. I maybe wrong, this is my personal experience

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by zulban »

2ndorderthought wrote: post #416
wilbur_whateley wrote: post #2

Claude with Sonnet medium effort just used 100% of my session limit, some extra dollars, thought for 53 minutes, and said: API Error: Claude's response exceeded the 32000 output token maximum. To configure this behavior, set the CLAUDE_CODE_MAX_OUTPUT_TOKENS environment variable.

I hope this doesn't come out wrong but. When this happens do agentic/vibe coders message their boss and say "sorry can't work until tomorrow?"

People hired to do jobs they cannot do have many, many more methods than that. For thousands of years.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by Madmallard »

buredoranna wrote: post #328
gwerbin wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or just don't use AI to write code. Use it as a code reviewer assistant along with your usual test-lint development cycle. Use it to help evaluate 3rd party libraries faster. Use it to research new topics. Use it to help draft RFCs and design documents. Use it as a chat buddy when working on hard problems. I think the AI companies all stink to high heaven and the whole thing being built on copyright infringement stil…

> the whole thing being built on copyright infringement I am not a lawyer, but am generally familiar with two "is it fair use" tests. 1. Is it transformative? I take a picture, I own the copyright. You can't sell it. But if you take a copy, and literally chop it to pieces, reforming it into a collage, you can sell that. 2. Does the alleged infringing work devalue the original? If I have a conversation with ai about "…

What in the mental gymnastics?

They just stole everyone's hard work over decades to make this or it wouldn't have been useful at all.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by jwitthuhn »

mathisfun123 wrote: post #307
teucris wrote: post #280

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But agents do keep task lists and check the tasks off as they go. Of course it’s not perfect either but it’s MUCH better than an LLM can offer on its own. If you are seeing an agent missing tasks, work with it to write down the task list first and then hold it accountable to completing them all. A spec is not a plan.

bro do you really not understand that that's a game played for your sake - it checks boxes yes but you have no idea what effect the checking of the boxes actually has. like do you not realize/understand that anthropic/openai is baking this kind of stuff into models/UI/UX to give the sensation of rigor.

The checkboxes inform the model as well as the user, and you can observe this yourself. For example in a C++ project with MyClass defined in MyClass.cpp/h:

I ask the model to rename MyClass to MyNewClass. It will generate a checklist like:

- Rename references in all source files

- Rename source/header files

- Update build files to point at new source files

Then it will do those things in that order.

Now you can re-run it but inject the start of the model's response with the order changed in that list. It will follow the new order. The list plainly provides real information that influences future predictions and isn't just a facade for the user.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by zulban »

Curious. Not my experience whatsoever.

I tried Claude recently and it was able to one-shot fixes on 9/9 of the bugs I gave it on my large and older Unity C# project. Only 2/9 needed minor tweaks for personal style (functionally the same).

Maybe it helps that I separately have a CLI with very extensive unit tests. Or that I just signed up. Or that I use Claude late in the evenings (off hours). I also give it very targeted instructions and if it's taking longer than a couple minutes - I abort and try a different or more precise prompt. Maybe the backend recognizes that I use it sparingly and I get better service.

The author describes what sounds like very large tasks that I'd never hand off to an AI to run wild in 2026.

Anyway I thought I'd give a different perspective than this thread.

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