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Tesla discloses $2B AI hardware company acquisition in filing

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Re: Tesla discloses $2B AI hardware company acquisition in filing

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> "for up to $2.00 billion [...] of which approximately $1.8 billion is subject to certain service conditions and/or performance milestones dependent on the successful deployment of the company’s technology." so it could be as well just 200 million.

Which is exactly what the article says:

> The deal structure offers a few clues. Only $200 million of the up to $2 billion total is guaranteed — the remaining $1.8 billion is tied to service conditions and performance milestones.

Re: Tesla discloses $2B AI hardware company acquisition in filing

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Link to actual filing with Note 14 highlight:

In April 2026, the Company entered into an agreement to acquire an AI hardware company for up to $2.00 billion in Tesla common stock and equity awards, of which approximately $1.8 billion is subject to certain service conditions and/or performance milestones dependent on the successful deployment of the company's technology.

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1318605/000162828026...

Re: Tesla discloses $2B AI hardware company acquisition in filing

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find it funny how stealing 500,000 $ from a fan is a "debacle". In most places that would be considered a felony instead of a justification to smear the victim and call them a whiner.

You think $500K was stolen? Hmm, doesn't sound hyperbolic at all...

You are totally right. In accordance with the Tesla Referral Program contract a estimated ~250,000,000 $ in sales were referred to Tesla by major referrers earning those major referrers ~80 free Tesla Roadsters [1], announced as a 250,000 $ value and used a explicit contractual incentive to the program, in accordance with that legal contract. Having engaged in work on behalf of Tesla on the contractual guarantee of compensation and having earned that compensation in accordance with the contract, Tesla legally owes those fans ~20,000,000 $ in aggregate which it has so far rejected compensating for nearly 7 years.

I am not sure what term you use for having people work on your behalf according to the terms of a contract and then not paying the agreed upon compensation, but "theft" or "steal" would be the colloquial term. Only the intentionally biased would claim a trillion dollar company not paying fans for their work in accordance with their own contract is not "stealing" in common parlance.

I am sorry I was downplaying Tesla's bad behavior by just highlighting that individual fans were jilted out of hundreds of thousands of dollars of their work instead of pointing out how they screwed hundreds of their most loyal fans out of tens of millions of dollars of earned compensation. Anything other than praise for such a upstanding company is unwarranted and smearing their victims is the only unbiased move.

[1] https://electrek.co/2019/01/17/tesla-roadster-free-killed-re...

Re: Tesla discloses $2B AI hardware company acquisition in filing

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It's pretty obvious much of this article was written with AI, there's about 15 emdashes. This electrek site frequently comes up in my Firefox news feed and they seem to have made a business of breathless reporting news about Tesla with a negative spin.

I really used to enjoy Fred's writing on Electrek. But after the Roadster referral debacle, Fred's tune changed and has gotten more negative... so negative now that you cannot find any positive articles about Musk or Tesla (some articles you might classify as 'neutral'). If you look at comment counts, it's clear Fred is playing to the "I hate Musk" crowd now for clicks (comments and clicks have similar outcomes for G…

Why do you want the articles to be "positive" or "negative"? Why do you not want them to simply be the fact of the matter?

If you want more good news about Tesla then perhaps Tesla should be better run. Perhaps Tesla should abandon their policy of constantly lying. Tesla's been lying continuously about full self-driving for a decade. Tesla lies about dumb things there's no need to lie about like how fast the Cybertruck is:

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/tesla-cybertruck-beast-vs...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0AJmLvKjxw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J3H8--CQRE

Tesla never ran that quarter mile, a lie which the lead Cybertruck engineer pathetically tried to defend. When even your engineers can't achieve basic honesty then you've got a sick company culture:

https://x.com/wmorrill3/status/1746266437088645551

What "positive" spin do you want to see on these lies?

Re: Tesla discloses $2B AI hardware company acquisition in filing

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Now everything they touch is a disaster. Care to give counter examples? Tesla (and Elon) are responsible for bringing on the EV age, and forcing the trend on legacy manufacturers. Anyone who says otherwise is uninformed or dishonest. That being said, their (one trick) pony has done it's trick, and now it's just promises that the pony will do progressively more crazy tricks if you just give it a little more time.

Just look at any headline they put out about Tesla. They phrase every article in the most negative light possible and mostly seem to report only negative events about the company. >Tesla’s ‘Robotaxi’ expansion looks like another stock pump before earnings >Tesla’s California sales crash 24% as state’s EV market plunges to lowest since 2021 >Tesla’s head of customer experience leaves for Coinbase as talent exodus grow…

Most of those are pretty fair thou.

>Tesla’s ‘Robotaxi’ expansion looks like another stock pump before earnings - I believe thats fair, they love doing this but Im willing to concede its negative.

>Tesla’s California sales crash 24% as state’s EV market plunges to lowest since 2021 -> Thats just a fact, it also mentions in the headline that the entire EV industry is down a lot in Cali so of course Tesla is heavily affected. If they wanted to just bash tesla it would have been trival to cut that out instead they provide context.

>Tesla’s head of customer experience leaves for Coinbase as talent exodus grows -> Both statements( head of customer experince leaves && talent exodus ). I guess you could make a argument that "talent exodus" is negative but is it not warranted? Its not a good look when a bunch of people leave your company at the same time.

>Tesla launches ‘Robotaxi’ in Houston and Dallas with tiny geofences - The initial area IS tiny it would not be a fair article if that was not highlighted, its just a few neighbors in some of the most sprawling cities in the US. The total area they are operating is in not even 10% of the city, its 30-35sq miles out of 340. The entire metro is ~9,000. That IS tiny especially if we compare it to its competitors that operate throughout entire cities.

What has Tesla done positively lately? Optimus is hardware that exist in many other companies paired with remote people controlling it, the cybertruck is a disaster, the semi has had no news of note, the robotaxi currently does not exist and requires software that has been promised for years and years without actually being delivered so its only fair to be skeptical of it.

Re: Tesla discloses $2B AI hardware company acquisition in filing

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Yeah, to me it's not bashing or negative to call a spade a spade.

What if you were just reporting on electric cars then dropped most reporting on electric cars from the foremost electric car company unless there was a way to include ceo-bashing for half the article? I get being fair or even a decent amount of hatred for whatever reason, but Fred really changed his tune and became quite spiteful. It was sad to watch, and many people tried to help in online comments, but seems like t…

There are plenty of CEOs who have had this result on trade publications and/or market analysts. The only difference I see is that Musk can be neither thrown out like the majority nor pressured to listen to PR experts who normally spend as many hours as it takes to convince a schmuck like him with a majority stake that being a silent partner shows strength and confidence.

Re: Tesla discloses $2B AI hardware company acquisition in filing

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It's pretty obvious much of this article was written with AI, there's about 15 emdashes. This electrek site frequently comes up in my Firefox news feed and they seem to have made a business of breathless reporting news about Tesla with a negative spin.

I’ve grown to love em dashes — I try to use them in places where I’d usually use commas. But I quickly get wary that someone might think it’s AI-written. So I give them the benefit of the doubt. (Admittedly, I didn’t read the article fully.)

Re: Tesla discloses $2B AI hardware company acquisition in filing

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just look at any headline they put out about Tesla. They phrase every article in the most negative light possible and mostly seem to report only negative events about the company. >Tesla’s ‘Robotaxi’ expansion looks like another stock pump before earnings >Tesla’s California sales crash 24% as state’s EV market plunges to lowest since 2021 >Tesla’s head of customer experience leaves for Coinbase as talent exodus grow…

Most of those are pretty fair thou. >Tesla’s ‘Robotaxi’ expansion looks like another stock pump before earnings - I believe thats fair, they love doing this but Im willing to concede its negative. >Tesla’s California sales crash 24% as state’s EV market plunges to lowest since 2021 -> Thats just a fact, it also mentions in the headline that the entire EV industry is down a lot in Cali so of course Tesla is heavily af…

I feel like you are intentionally ignoring my point, this ofc doesn't feel like a good faith discussion but I will engage anyway.

Bias comes in many forms. We can choose to not report things at all, we can choose to take neutral things and present them negatively, we can even take positive things and represent them as negatives, or we can choose to highlight negatives.

Elektrek is doing all of these.

Compare their coverage of Waymo's launch in Dallas to Tesla's. Their testing areas have very similar footprints, Waymo's is slightly larger but not by much.

Waymo's headline:

>Waymo adds 4 more cities to its robotaxi service, now 10 total (Tesla: still 0)

Tesla's headline:

>Tesla launches ‘Robotaxi’ in Houston and Dallas with tiny geofences

I mean if you cannot see the bias here then I would say you're just deliberately being bad faith.

One highlights Waymo's expansion as a positive while taking a deliberate swipe at Tesla, the other for some reason always puts "Robotaxi" in quotes and makes sure to emphasize how small it is directly in the headline.

6 months ago when Tesla launched robotaxi in Austin the service area was like twice as big as Waymo's, but do you think Elektrek reported it that way?

Reading this site really does remind me of Fox News.

If you want to see some positive things that Tesla is doing you can read other sites that actually publish that information.

>What has Tesla done positively lately?

Off the top of my head positives: the fact that they started production on the cybercab, the fact that they're rolling it out in all their testing locations and people have sighted it on the street, the fact that they started construction on the Optimus robot manufacturing plant which will have the capacity to make 10M robots per year.

>the semi has had no news of note

There is definitely news on the semi, it's just not being reported by people like Elektrek.

>California-based freight brokerage and asset-based carrier AiLO Logistics has launched a three-week operational pilot using the Tesla Semi truck.

>Tesla has said it has a few hundred Semis on the road with 13.5 million miles logged.

https://eletric-vehicles.com/tesla/tesla-semi-gains-traction...

The fact that you believe they have only done negative/evil things indicates that likely the news you are reading about them has some significant slant to it.

Re: Tesla discloses $2B AI hardware company acquisition in filing

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It's pretty obvious much of this article was written with AI, there's about 15 emdashes. This electrek site frequently comes up in my Firefox news feed and they seem to have made a business of breathless reporting news about Tesla with a negative spin.

I really used to enjoy Fred's writing on Electrek. But after the Roadster referral debacle, Fred's tune changed and has gotten more negative... so negative now that you cannot find any positive articles about Musk or Tesla (some articles you might classify as 'neutral'). If you look at comment counts, it's clear Fred is playing to the "I hate Musk" crowd now for clicks (comments and clicks have similar outcomes for G…

Elektrek went from insufferably pro Tesla to insufferably anti Tesla. If you liked it before and not now, your quarrel is with the direction of the propaganda.
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