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Re: Show HN: Atomic – Local-first, AI-augmented personal knowledge base

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> Not x — but y. Am I the only one who feels a bit betrayed after reading LLM text? I am not even willing to try out the app after I notice… which is a shame. At least polishing the obvious parts would help a lot and is not that much work.

As someone that makes regular use of the em-dash, comments like this are rather maddening.

I still refuse to self-censor to avoid having my actual writing get flagged by someone as LLM written.

Re: Show HN: Atomic – Local-first, AI-augmented personal knowledge base

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I sure love when the local-first software defaults to a non-local option for its main feature.

Somehow, in the AI world, "local-first" means a local harness talking to a remote model, almost never "local harness talking to local model". But then "open source model" apparently also means "you can download the weights if you agree to our license" and almost never "you can see, understand and iterate on what we did", so the definitions already drifted a lot between the two ecosystems.

Re: Show HN: Atomic – Local-first, AI-augmented personal knowledge base

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I sure love when the local-first software defaults to a non-local option for its main feature.

I'm not sure what the dunk is supposed to be here .. Atomic supports the exact same feature set with local models as it does for OpenRouter. Is your gripe just that Openrouter is the first option in the dropdown?

Re: Show HN: Atomic – Local-first, AI-augmented personal knowledge base

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I sure love when the local-first software defaults to a non-local option for its main feature.

I'm not sure what the dunk is supposed to be here .. Atomic supports the exact same feature set with local models as it does for OpenRouter. Is your gripe just that Openrouter is the first option in the dropdown?

Yes. Why even call it local-first when local isn't first? Not to mention, for some reason they decided to only support Ollama instead of giving you the option to connect to any OpenAI-compatible server, which would make this work with any other inference server such as llama.cpp and vLLM as well as Ollama. (and also most SaaS inference providers, including OpenRouter, so the custom integration would not be necessary either, https://schizo.cooking/schizo-takes/9.html)

Re: Show HN: Atomic – Local-first, AI-augmented personal knowledge base

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what the dunk is supposed to be here .. Atomic supports the exact same feature set with local models as it does for OpenRouter. Is your gripe just that Openrouter is the first option in the dropdown?

Yes. Why even call it local-first when local isn't first? Not to mention, for some reason they decided to only support Ollama instead of giving you the option to connect to any OpenAI-compatible server, which would make this work with any other inference server such as llama.cpp and vLLM as well as Ollama. (and also most SaaS inference providers, including OpenRouter, so the custom integration would not be necessary…

Did you think local-first meant how a dropdown is sorted?

OpenAI-compatible is indeed one of the provider options for Atomic. Ollama and openRouter are separate options to allow for easier selection of models from these specific providers.

Re: Show HN: Atomic – Local-first, AI-augmented personal knowledge base

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. Why even call it local-first when local isn't first? Not to mention, for some reason they decided to only support Ollama instead of giving you the option to connect to any OpenAI-compatible server, which would make this work with any other inference server such as llama.cpp and vLLM as well as Ollama. (and also most SaaS inference providers, including OpenRouter, so the custom integration would not be necessary…

Did you think local-first meant how a dropdown is sorted? OpenAI-compatible is indeed one of the provider options for Atomic. Ollama and openRouter are separate options to allow for easier selection of models from these specific providers.

The online documentation does not suggest that using a generic OpenAI-compatible server is an option, and it once again lists the non-local option first.

https://atomicapp.ai/getting-started/ai-providers/

> OpenAI-compatible is indeed one of the provider options for Atomic. Ollama and openRouter are separate options to allow for easier selection of models from these specific providers.

Why is this necessary over just presenting the result of `/v1/models`?

You can say it's just the ordering of a dropdown, but to me it seems pretty clear that this thing is developed with the idea that you'll most likely use a SaaS provider.

Re: Show HN: Atomic – Local-first, AI-augmented personal knowledge base

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I sure love when the local-first software defaults to a non-local option for its main feature.

Yes, hah.

"Local-first, your data never leaves the computer! Except once to go to the biggest information hoarders on the Internet."

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