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A quick look at Mythos run on Firefox: too much hype?

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Re: A quick look at Mythos run on Firefox: too much hype?

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Post by uep »

MyFirstSass wrote: post #10
Eufrat wrote: post #3

Probably worth noting that the new-ish Mozilla CEO, Anthony Enzor-DeMeo, is clearly an AI booster having talked about wanting to make Firefox into a “modern AI browser”. So, I don’t doubt that Anthropic and Mozilla saw an opportunity to make a good bit of copy. I think this has been pushed too hard , along with general exhaustion at people insisting that AI is eating everything and the moon these claims are getting k…

Hackernews has also been completely co-opted by boosters. So much that i don't really visit anymore after 15 years of use. It's a bizarre situation with billions in marketing and PR, astroturfing and torrents of fake news with streams of comments beneath them with zero skepticism and an almost horrifying worship of these billion dollar companies. Something completely flipped here at some point, i don't know if it's b…

I've noticed a lot of astroturfing lately. It really bothers me, because it was kind of my last bastion of sanity for online tech discourse. Every forum I've used is now full of marketing and dishonesty by bots, paid shills, and bad actors.

Re: A quick look at Mythos run on Firefox: too much hype?

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Post by gertop »

arealaccount wrote: post #27
HeWhoLurksLate wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't been able to find any communities with as high of a signal-to-noise ratio and breadth of experiences as HN, especially not public ones that one can stumble their way into without knowing a guy / joining a clique

Heh that’s a very low bar though

> Heh that’s a very low bar though

This is a low bar: ?

> communities with as high of a signal-to-noise ratio and breadth of experiences as HN, especially not public ones that one can stumble their way into without knowing a guy / joining a clique

If this is such a low bar, then how come there's only HN? Can you name another? 10? 100? Because I can't.

Re: A quick look at Mythos run on Firefox: too much hype?

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Post by tracker1 »

MyFirstSass wrote: post #10
Eufrat wrote: post #3

Probably worth noting that the new-ish Mozilla CEO, Anthony Enzor-DeMeo, is clearly an AI booster having talked about wanting to make Firefox into a “modern AI browser”. So, I don’t doubt that Anthropic and Mozilla saw an opportunity to make a good bit of copy. I think this has been pushed too hard , along with general exhaustion at people insisting that AI is eating everything and the moon these claims are getting k…

Hackernews has also been completely co-opted by boosters. So much that i don't really visit anymore after 15 years of use. It's a bizarre situation with billions in marketing and PR, astroturfing and torrents of fake news with streams of comments beneath them with zero skepticism and an almost horrifying worship of these billion dollar companies. Something completely flipped here at some point, i don't know if it's b…

I think the fact that AI is finally at a point where it seems to be more useful that annoying, it's easy to be overly optimistic. I've only been using Claude for a few months (I did try 20x, but fell back to 5x), and it's genuinely been a productivity multiplier. That said, the way I've worked with it is very different than me coding on my own... I spend way more time planning, there's a lot more documentation and testing that is part of the output and even then I still find a lot of issues.

I'm also mournful for those just starting out, that may lean so much on these tools that they may never have true proficiency to be able to spot issues with fitness and quality. I see people running half a dozen or more agents and know there is no way they're doping any kind of meaningful QA/QC on that output.

Re: A quick look at Mythos run on Firefox: too much hype?

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Post by tracker1 »

nazgu1 wrote: post #4

Why people publish AI written articles? If I would like to read AI I can just prompt it myself, and when I read something on someone blog I expect that I will read thoughts of this particular human being...

I have a friend that literally takes topics he wants/needs to know more about... has AI generate a discussion format conversation as a deep dive explanation on multiple PoV, then outputs it through TTS tooling so he can listen to it while traveling.

It's kind of crazy... but I can kind of see the appeal of getting just what you are looking for on something.

That said, actually churning that out for other people to consume feels very wrong... I absolutely hate the slop generated content on YouTube. I want a lot of historical content, so don't always mind it when it's genuine/factual... but when there are obvious content errors, it becomes more annoying than anything.

Re: A quick look at Mythos run on Firefox: too much hype?

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Post by PearlRiver »

Eufrat wrote: post #3

Probably worth noting that the new-ish Mozilla CEO, Anthony Enzor-DeMeo, is clearly an AI booster having talked about wanting to make Firefox into a “modern AI browser”. So, I don’t doubt that Anthropic and Mozilla saw an opportunity to make a good bit of copy. I think this has been pushed too hard , along with general exhaustion at people insisting that AI is eating everything and the moon these claims are getting k…

Funny because that is exactly what Edge calls itself...

Re: A quick look at Mythos run on Firefox: too much hype?

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Post by mccr8 »

bblb wrote: post #12

Can IDE's be configured so that it won't allow to save the file changes if it contains the usual suspects; buffer overflows and what not. LLM would scan it and deny write operation. Like the Black formatter for Python code on VSCode, that runs before hitting CTRL+S.

You can't just use a linter to fix buffer overflows, or people would have done it already.

Re: A quick look at Mythos run on Firefox: too much hype?

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Post by whattheheckheck »

nazgu1 wrote: post #4

Why people publish AI written articles? If I would like to read AI I can just prompt it myself, and when I read something on someone blog I expect that I will read thoughts of this particular human being...

Thats the thing. You didn't prompt it. Someone is saying you should read this. Otherwise you never would have prompted it

Re: A quick look at Mythos run on Firefox: too much hype?

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Post by whattheheckheck »

tracker1 wrote: post #34
nazgu1 wrote: post #4

Why people publish AI written articles? If I would like to read AI I can just prompt it myself, and when I read something on someone blog I expect that I will read thoughts of this particular human being...

I have a friend that literally takes topics he wants/needs to know more about... has AI generate a discussion format conversation as a deep dive explanation on multiple PoV, then outputs it through TTS tooling so he can listen to it while traveling. It's kind of crazy... but I can kind of see the appeal of getting just what you are looking for on something. That said, actually churning that out for other people to co…

You have no idea the territory or how shallow the llms are going
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