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I would categorize HN as a news aggregator with a comment section, not social media.
The various laws being proposed don't tend to agree with that
Nobody under 16 should be on social media for their own good, but it’s their parent’s job to prevent them from rotting their brains, not some governing body.
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if it's bad for society then regulate the Social Media companies rather than shifting the burden on the citizenry through ID laws and backdooring increased surveillance under the guise of "muh chillren!"
Genuine question, how is it different than tobacco, driving, alcohol, all the things we gate by age for what seem to be valid reasons?
Being licensed to drive is a bit of a different situation as you do have to demonstrate some kind of proficiency, but even still, the government practically has to keep track of this in some way and presumably, that way doesn't involve selling your personal info (if it did, there likely would be the same backlash).
Should be banned for under 40s and over 70s really... Also ban giving toddlers iPads with YouTube.
Outside of this group (which happens to be my peer group) I see a noticeable drop in media literacy and ability to detect bullshit, but that may just be a blind spot for me since I’m part of the aforementioned Millenial group.
Speedrunning the way for the loneliness generation. Everything remote yet you can't even meet people
This is pretty radical, but what if, perhaps, the children touched grass instead of doom scrolling? Lonely children aren’t the fault of the government, they’re the fault of parents who let them scroll TikTok in their rooms all day, because actually parenting would be difficult or inconvenient.
A simple solution would be:
- measure the harmful effects of it if there are any, and make it public
- tell parents to take away the kids phones while they are at home
Good, social media is cancer on society and will only get worse with LLMs, Deepfakes etc. All the astroturfing in favour of social media couldn't possibly change my mind on how harmful social media has been on society.
Please take a beat to think about how this would be implemented (it looks like it's not decided at this time) before reflexively saying "good" because the marketing sounds nice. This is how the US got swindled into accepting the PATRIOT act, et al. There are problems with social media, yes. However, these problems exist for children and adults. A reasonable way to tackle this issue would be to make social media safer…
Europe slowly becomes a totalitarian fascist federation. The social media and children protection bullshit serves only to introduce a mandatory identification for accessing the internet. And we all laughed at the "conspiracy theorists" who were constantly warning us.
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The problem is that it really is the 14-21 group that where it has the most (and increasing) influence. They should have banned it for under 18.
I'd prefer a ban for the over 65s, who are especially vulnerable.
Should be banned for under 40s and over 70s really... Also ban giving toddlers iPads with YouTube.
hah - 50 year olds have been amongst the worst offenders from what I've experienced. The only generation that I can see that hasnt completely fallen is the generation that were young adults just around the time facebook first released, i.e Millenials. They grew up with the internet but werent enslaved to it like the generation after (Gen Z). Meanwhile the generation above (Gen X) didnt have the survival instincts fos…
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in your country, who is responsible if a 12 year old keeps getting drunk at home and the parents do nothing to prevent it? do they go after the liquor store and just ignore the parents letting their kids drink?
Oh man where I'm from they'd probably just laugh and put them to bed. jkjk To be honest I did some brief searching and couldn't find anything! The parent will be liable if someone at your home drinks and drives home drunk, but I couldn't find anything specific about children consuming alcohol alone. It is only illegal to sell alcohol to minor, underage alcohol consumption is explicitly legal if supplied and supervise…
is that enough examples to satisfy your initial request?
(which was a request for examples of the extremely broad statement: "We used to hold parents liable.")
Good, social media is cancer on society and will only get worse with LLMs, Deepfakes etc. All the astroturfing in favour of social media couldn't possibly change my mind on how harmful social media has been on society.
Does HN count, or is the actual problem the algorithmic feeds?
HN doesn't have this.