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I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by Someone1234 »

GaryBluto wrote: post #25
janwillemb wrote: post #19

This is what worries me. People become dependent on these GenAI products that are proprietary, not transparant, and need a subscription. People build on it like it is a solid foundation. But all of a sudden the owner just pulls the foundation from under your building.

Luckily local AI is becoming more feasible every day.

It feels more and more like OpenAI/Anthoropic aren't the future but Qwen, Kimi, or Deepseek are. You can run them locally, but that isn't really the point, it is about democratization of service providers. You can run any of them on a dozen providers with different trade-offs/offerings OR locally.

They won't ever be SOTA due to money, but "last year's SOTA" when it costs 1/4 or less, may be good enough. More quantity, more flexibility, at lower edge quality. It can make sense. A 7% dumber agent TEAM Vs. a single objectively superior super-agent.

That's the most exciting thing going on in that space. New workflows opening up not due to intelligence improvements but cost improvements for "good enough" intelligence.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by fourside »

GaryBluto wrote: post #25
janwillemb wrote: post #19

This is what worries me. People become dependent on these GenAI products that are proprietary, not transparant, and need a subscription. People build on it like it is a solid foundation. But all of a sudden the owner just pulls the foundation from under your building.

Luckily local AI is becoming more feasible every day.

Maybe for folks who are deep into this, but it’s not exactly accessible. I tried reading up on it a couple of months ago, but parsing through what hardware I needed, the model and how to configure it (model size vs quantization), how I’d get access to the hardware (which for decent results in coding, new hardware runs $4k-$10k last I checked)—it had a non trivial barrier of entry. I was trying to do this over a long weekend and ran out of time. I’ll have to look into it again because having the local option would be great.

Edit: the replies to my comment are great examples of what I’m talking about when I say it’s hard to determine what hardware I’d need :).

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by petterroea »

Looking at Anthropic's new products I think they understand they don't really have a cutting edge other than the brand.

I tried Kimi 2.6 and it's almost comparable to Opus. Anthropic lost the ball. I hope this is a sign the we are moving towards a future where model usage is a commodity with heavy competition on price/performance

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by system2 »

Same here. The single prompt burnt all my tokens in 3 minutes for the day. What happened to Claude in the last 2 months? I was happy with what they were providing and was happy to pay whatever for it. Why did they mess with it? Why are they destroying the tool we all loved?

I hate enshittification and I hate seeing this happening to Claude Code right now.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by wongarsu »

janwillemb wrote: post #19

This is what worries me. People become dependent on these GenAI products that are proprietary, not transparant, and need a subscription. People build on it like it is a solid foundation. But all of a sudden the owner just pulls the foundation from under your building.

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Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by appcustodian2 »

zkmon wrote: post #21

Yesterday was a realization point for me. I gave a simple extraction task to Claude code with a local LLM and it "whirred" and "purred" for 10 minutes. Then I submitted the same data and prompt directly to model via llama_cpp chat UI and the model single-shotted it in under a minute. So obviously something wrong with coding agent or the way it is talking to LLM. Now I'm looking for an extremely simple open-source cod…

Just in case it didn't occur to you already, you can just build whatever coding agent you want. They're pretty simple

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by scottyah »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #14

I'm torn because I use it in my spare time, so I've missed some of these issues, I don't use it 9 to 5, but I've built some amazing things, when 1 Million tokens dropped, that was peak Claude Code for me, it was also when I suspect their issues started. I've built up some things I've been drafting in my head for ages but never had time for, and I can review the code and refine it until it looks good. I'm debating try…

Don't forget, Openclaw was basically bought by OpenAI so there's only incentive to use it as a wedge to pry people off Anthropic.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by politelemon »

GaryBluto wrote: post #25
janwillemb wrote: post #19

This is what worries me. People become dependent on these GenAI products that are proprietary, not transparant, and need a subscription. People build on it like it is a solid foundation. But all of a sudden the owner just pulls the foundation from under your building.

Luckily local AI is becoming more feasible every day.

Feasibility on commodity hardware would be the true watermark. Running high end computers is the only way to get decent results at the moment, but if we can run inference on CPUs, NPUs, and GPUs on everyday hardware, the moat should disappear.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by rvz »

The great de-skilling programme continues in Anthropic's casino. They completely want you dependent on gambling tokens on their slot machines with extortionate prices, fees and limits.

Anthropic can't even scale their own infrastructure operations, because it does not exist and they do not have the compute; even when they are losing tens of billions and can nerf models when they feel like it.

Once again, local models are the answer and Anthropic continues to get you addicted to their casino instead of running your own cheaper slot machine, which you save your money.

Every time you go to Anthropic's casino, the house always wins.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by terrut »

jwaldrip wrote: post #5

I would love to just say that if you are using claude code, you should no be on pro. I feel like all the people complaining are complaining that an agent cant handle the work of a developer for $20/m. Get on at least max 5, its a world of a difference.

I found the perfect sweet spot for my hobby development. I pay 7 euros for Gemini plus and use it for creating the architecture and technical specs. Those are fed to Sonnet on Pro that just implements the instructions. This gives plenty of space to do long sessions several times a week.
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