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Meta tells staff it will cut 10% of jobs

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Re: Meta tells staff it will cut 10% of jobs

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Post by prepend »

-warren wrote: post #370
dnnddidiej wrote: post #256

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What does a pilot or doctor or cop do in terms of interviews, take homes etc.?

While I cannot respond as a doctor, I can respond as an EMT. Totally different. But heres the deal. The person who is the most important to you on the worst day of your life is the emt. The interview was literally "do you have a drivers license, and are you grossed out by stuff?" The rest you learned on the job. Weird how doctors are vetted but prehospital folk are not. edit yes there is training, but it happens afte…

The person who makes the ball bearing in the ambulance is also super important. They are paid leas because more people can do it.

The reason why EMT have such hiring practices are because many people can do the job, and there are many willing to do it.

It’s not weird if you think of in market terms.

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Post by svieira »

999900000999 wrote: post #363
Gigachad wrote: post #343

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That might be fine if they are offering incredible pay and conditions at a highly desirable company. But you get so many mid tier companies looking at Apple and Google and replicating their process without the pay or reason to put up with that process. I just eject from the interview process when I hear it's going to be so many rounds because I know there will be another company that's just as good that will get it d…

I had a 6 interview + take home ( which realistically took 2 days because I intensively studied for it ) loop. Didn’t get the job. Got the vibe they were full of crap anyway. The salary range was never given. The business model, extremely easy to replicate. The job I’m at now had a single 30 minute chat. Verbal offer 2 days later. And my co workers and boss are awesome.

Every single crew member of the Endurance was selected based on Shackleton's vibes on them, sometimes before they even said anything. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Trans-Antarctic_Exped...

Re: Meta tells staff it will cut 10% of jobs

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Post by danans »

Ifkaluva wrote: post #543
plemer wrote: post #447

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You’d have to go company-wide to sync schedules and norms. Not just opt in. Many would not like a 20% pay cut. The best talent would disproportionately leave. Also, theoretically Meta is getting rid of their worst performers, so their cuts and declines in productivity would not be proportional, especially as the cuts inspire fear to motivate productivity from the remaining employees.

Does it inspire fear to motivate productivity? Haha, no, it inspires motivation for finding a new job. Interview prep takes time!

> Does it inspire fear to motivate productivity?

> Haha, no, it inspires motivation for finding a new job. Interview prep takes time

Everyone's circumstances are different. Many people - especially those with dependents - would reasonably be afraid. Whether that would inspire lasting productivity is questionable. It could also inspire less productive ways of getting ahead.

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Post by NegativeK »

ergocoder wrote: post #536
LambdaComplex wrote: post #503

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So what does it mean, concretely? What repercussions will he personally suffer?

If you hire a house cleaner, and the house cleaner doesn't do a good job, would you fire yourself from the house? What repercussions will you personally suffer?

If I had a roommate who spent huge swaths of our monthly budget on house cleaning we didn't need, I might tell them to go find another place to live.

Or to stop stretching metaphors.. The investors should be mad that the layoffs were even necessary.

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Post by lazide »

byzantinegene wrote: post #589
Schlagbohrer wrote: post #555

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What do you think about Cory Doctorow's theory that the AI produced code is going to come back to bite companies due to tech debt / unmaintainability? I am skeptical of Doctorow's theory because it looks like LLMs will continue to improve enough over the near term to be able to handle issues caused by AI-written code from the past few years.

the near term is not an issue, because most ai code is still reviewed by experienced engineers with experience. the problem comes in the future where junior engineers who never acquired enough experience to handle engineering problems

Ain’t nobody reviewing the majority of vibe coded output.

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Post by singpolyma3 »

autaut wrote: post #436
singpolyma3 wrote: post #304

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> Would you rather them never hire them in the first place? It does seem like a lot of people would prefer this, they way they react to every layoff announcement.

It would be better because it would create a more diverse work space where multiple employers complete for employees, instead of one company playing musical chairs with people

Having fewer jobs available would result in more employers? I'm not sure how.

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Post by NegativeK »

dnnddidiej wrote: post #256
-warren wrote: post #110

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So let me ask this. What is the perfect mix of inerviews and durations? If you ask my blue collar friends, the answer is one and however long it takes to drink three beers. If you ask any married person, the onboarding process (courtship) may last YEARS and consist of many interviews (dates). As an EM, ive always struggled with this one. Im about to invest some serious coin and brainspace for you, so I tended towards…

What does a pilot or doctor or cop do in terms of interviews, take homes etc.?

Doctors are continually interviewed every time a patient gets pissed and sues them or files a board complaint. If there's any fault they're (very publicly) assigned remedial training or put on a PIP. They're also in incredibly high demand, so its often the doctor interviewing the practice.

If the interview is for becoming a partner at a practice, it's a two way courtship that's more reminiscent of other businesses looking for a co-owner.

Doctors also tend to hear about each other. Even in decent sized metro areas, they can often know who to avoid.

(This process isn't perfect, but it's still way different than for software.)

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Post by singpolyma3 »

drivebyhooting wrote: post #339
singpolyma3 wrote: post #297

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Because you have to pay people more to do boring or evil work vs meaningful or exciting work

In my experience the pay difference was never that close that meaning and ethics played a role in the decision. Cool exciting and meaningful science job: 200k Big Tech surveillance capitalism job: 800k (at the low end) The calculus has only been about affording housing and providing for the family.

Seems the pay is very different and thus is absolutely playing a role in the decision?
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