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US special forces soldier arrested after allegedly winning $400k on Maduro raid

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Post by Forgeties79 »

nickff wrote: post #119
Forgeties79 wrote: post #90

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There is zero chance this escalates further off this guy.

Zero chance? What odds are you offering, because this bet looks very appealing? I am guessing that you would not actually go all-in against a penny, and I’m curious to know what implied probability you actually offer. I will see your bet amount as an expression of your confidence level. If you say that you don’t bet, I’ll take that as an indication that you have no confidence, and believe the probability to be someth…

Initially I did set a number to be donated to a favorite charity but decided it was in poor taste/mean spirited and quickly edited it out. We don’t need to be petty just because we disagree.

The Trump admin will not be held accountable for the blatant market manipulation and betting on internal info they engage in. That’s the smart “bet” metaphorically speaking. It’s a self enriching circus.

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Post by argomo »

dctoedt wrote: post #379
IsTom wrote: post #366

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Historically aristocracy was the military class. Nowadays in authoritarian societies it looks like it's mostly matter of time before military takes the lead.

> Nowadays in authoritarian societies it looks like it's mostly matter of time before military takes the lead. See, e.g., Iran's IGRC. Counterexamples: China, Russia — and the U.S.?

A military coup in the U.S. is imaginable, which probably explains some of the top brass purges (until recently, where it's probably an attempt to deflect blame for the massive Iran fuck up).

Putin did it better; he kept the military weak and aggressively managed the risk via the FSB.

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Post by jjk166 »

Pay08 wrote: post #284
ashtonshears wrote: post #205

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Sad that you have given up

Sad that you want a return to the Reign of Terror.

Return? We never had a reign of terror. There have been hundreds of peaceful revolutions.

Re: US special forces soldier arrested after allegedly winning $400k on Maduro raid

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Post by ChrisBland »

looksjjhg wrote: post #177

That’s hilarious … so he’s arrested and put on trial and all the senate and congress are doing the exact same and free? lol

Wilhoit Law; There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect

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Post by jjk166 »

ashtonshears wrote: post #377
ashtonshears wrote: post #373

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Dont defend accepting corruption, thats so lame

But, being more respectful to you and who i orignally replied to — yes actual revolution could/would be brutal and could/would create a much worse daily life for the non-elites. Still, as I bet you could agree when not aguing semantics, its inexusable for people to declare we should accept corruption

> yes actual revolution would be brutal, and could/would create a much worse daily life for the non-elites.

50% of revolutions in the past 200 years have been non-violent, and the non-violent ones have a much higher success rate. Even for violent revolutions, most aren't brutal. When there is brutality, it's usually because the pre-existing conditions were already brutal.

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Post by mystraline »

esseph wrote: post #390
jjk166 wrote: post #387

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People with guns don't stand much of a chance against people with armies. Sure armies can turn on an individual, but that just means that particular individual has lost power, and that power has been transferred to whatever new individual commands the loyalty of the many. It's not imaginary, it's emergent.

People vastly overestimate the power of armies. Trump has gotten shot once, almost twice. Shinzo Abe got murked by some pipes from the hardware store.

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Post by breppp »

watwut wrote: post #230
breppp wrote: post #190

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If you are in Kuwait you will find yourself under rockets whether you knew in advance or not I think the worse aspect is if the news of an attack being leaked to the defender and you are being blown to bits as their ballistic missiles are not decimated in their preemptive strike.

They referred to soldiers that were killed by the start of the war. They thought the situation is normal, war was started without them knowing, got killed. Not knowing in advance was an important factor

Soldiers can't catch a flight back home when war starts (or about to), and by the time the Iranians were able to attack back after the initial shock, all US soldiers knew there's a war going on

That's why I am having great difficulty following that argument

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Post by ashtonshears »

jjk166 wrote: post #395
ashtonshears wrote: post #377

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But, being more respectful to you and who i orignally replied to — yes actual revolution could/would be brutal and could/would create a much worse daily life for the non-elites. Still, as I bet you could agree when not aguing semantics, its inexusable for people to declare we should accept corruption

> yes actual revolution would be brutal, and could/would create a much worse daily life for the non-elites. 50% of revolutions in the past 200 years have been non-violent, and the non-violent ones have a much higher success rate. Even for violent revolutions, most aren't brutal. When there is brutality, it's usually because the pre-existing conditions were already brutal.

I appreciate that info

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Post by globalnode »

Frieren wrote: post #219
looksjjhg wrote: post #177

That’s hilarious … so he’s arrested and put on trial and all the senate and congress are doing the exact same and free? lol

Only aristocrats can play that game. The soldier is being punished for doing something not allowed for his class status. This is how a caste system works. People is not judged based on their actions but their relationship to power.

soldiers are disposable, they prolly threw him under the bus hoping that would be the end of the matter and they could walk away with the rest of the money.
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