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Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Post by ButlerianJihad »

LtWorf wrote: post #120
dotancohen wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plasma, meaning KDE. I've been using the Kubuntu 26.04 prereleases for a few weeks. No surprises from KDE, but Wayland has broken a few things. Autotype in Keepass does not work, keynav and even the Wayland keynav forks don't work, and Wayland does not support priority keyboard layouts for switching between two specific layouts.

It's called plasma now :) KDE is the association, the desktop is plasma. I still mostly use Xorg though, I only have wayland on a tablet.

It seems that KDE is fairly consistent in calling this “Plasma” and specifically, “Plasma Desktop”, but English Wikipedia insists on prefixing the names of their products with “KDE”. Especially Plasma 4, 5, and 6.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_Plasma

https://kde.org/plasma-desktop/

Is this, like, a “GNU/Linux controversy” thing?

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Post by throw0101a »

ntoskrnl_exe wrote: post #16
dima55 wrote: post #13

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Debian is great, and is where the distro development actually happens. What doesn't it do that you want?

I’m curious about proprietary Nvidia drivers. Ubuntu normally comes with fairly outdated, if not obsolete ones, but there’s a semi-official PPA with more recent versions. How does Debian handle this?

> I’m curious about proprietary Nvidia drivers. Ubuntu normally comes with fairly outdated, if not obsolete ones […]

I see the latest—580, 590, 595—available (scroll to bottom):

* https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nvidia-dkms

Am I missing something?

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Post by IshKebab »

collinfunk wrote: post #94
IshKebab wrote: post #82

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I wish they'd put the severity. There are 4 highs, the rest are medium or low. Here are the high ones: https://www.cve.org/CVERecord?id=CVE-2026-35338 - `chmod --preserve-root` can be bypassed. That doesn't seem that bad tbh. https://www.cve.org/CVERecord?id=CVE-2026-35341 - `mkfifo` accidentally resets the permissions of files that already exist, so if you manage to do `sudo mkfifo /etc/shadow` then it becomes world…

Well the TOCTOU issues do not require you to run untrusted scripts to be exploited. Another user on your system can use a legitimate command that you may run to make changes to files they shouldn’t be able to, or further escalate privileges.

Fair point. Though tbh I still think the user-isolation security for Linux is only really suited for the University/company threat model, where you generally trust users not to actually use exploits because they would get expelled/fired.

If you allow a completely untrusted user onto your system I think your chances of staying secure are low.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Post by throw0101a »

bravetraveler wrote: post #133
beAbU wrote: post #107

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Just don't use snap. No need to throw out the baby woth the bathwater.

Easier said than done, surprise: apt, who we know and love, is redirected to Snap for an ever-increasing number of packages. "Don't use Snap" , you say? I'll do you one better! Skip Ubuntu. 'Just' use anything else more suitable. Debian is an excellent replacement being upstream, but I hold no illusions over undeclared requirements.

> Easier said than done, surprise: apt, who we know and love, is redirected to Snap for an ever-increasing number of packages.

With 24.04 at least, doing an 'apt purge snapd' seems to be quite useful. Is that not sufficient?

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Post by AntonFriberg »

teekert wrote: post #19

It's nice as always, but I have some issues. * Select - Middle-click paste does not seem to work * When something requires a password (ie just tried a bitlocker volume) the whole screen is blocked, so no password manager for you (unless you copy it before, or cancel - unplug drive-copy password - replug drive - paste.) * The default tiling does not jive with me, sometimes I don't even know what it wants (it always tr…

For Nix Home-Manager on non-nixos you need to fix the driver integration. https://nix-community.github.io/home-manager/index.xhtml#sec...

Nowadays it is quite easy https://github.com/AntonFriberg/dotfiles/blob/master/modules...

Note that the way this works is that after you activate your home manager generation it outputs a script path that you need to run manually as root which installs a Systemd service which ensures that the drivers are linked correctly.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Post by ButlerianJihad »

ntoskrnl_exe wrote: post #16
dima55 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Debian is great, and is where the distro development actually happens. What doesn't it do that you want?

I’m curious about proprietary Nvidia drivers. Ubuntu normally comes with fairly outdated, if not obsolete ones, but there’s a semi-official PPA with more recent versions. How does Debian handle this?

Checking out username: FAILED...

Anyway, the main issue with Debian, Ubuntu, and Nvidia is about licensing. GNU/Linux is free software, and Nvidia drivers are not. Loading a non-free driver is known as “Tainting the Kernel”.

https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers

The information on their wiki may be a year out of date. But the principles still apply.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Post by lproven »

pezgrande wrote: post #115
satvikpendem wrote: post #7

What should I use if I like Ubuntu but not snap, just Debian? Or are there alternatives around? Seems like Ubuntu has the best hardware and driver support so just curious what's new in Linux land.

I think snap is not preinstalled in Kubuntu.

This is not correct.

Snap is preinstalled on all official Ubuntu graphical editions.

However, Xubuntu's _Minimal_ install does not include any snap packages at all, not even a browser. This means it's trivial to remove snapd:

sudo apt purge snapd

Then you can install the `extrepo` command, and use it to install Firefox ESR direct from Mozilla's repos, or Chrome from Google's repos.

Once it's online you can copy and paste a couple of commands to "pin" snapd and prevent it from being reinstalled. Then you can switch to current Firefox or anything else without snapd sneaking back in.

Xubuntu Minimal is also available as a separate ISO file, which is not true of any of the other flavours.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Post by lproven »

bboozzoo wrote: post #114
compounding_it wrote: post #9

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PopOS

Isn't that essentially a release of Ubuntu with a different kernel, DE and maybe some userspace utilities?

Yes.

Linux Mint, Zorin OS, Linux Lite, Pop OS, and several less famous distros are all based on Ubuntu. New versions of all of them will follow this new LTS release in time.

Mint forked GNOME 3 to make something more Windows-like.

Zorin customised upstream GNOME with a lot of extensions.

Pop removed it and replaced it with their own homegrown desktop, written in Rust. It's actually pretty good and works well.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Post by snarfy »

satvikpendem wrote: post #7

What should I use if I like Ubuntu but not snap, just Debian? Or are there alternatives around? Seems like Ubuntu has the best hardware and driver support so just curious what's new in Linux land.

Try Arch linux.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Post by ulrikrasmussen »

Qem wrote: post #139

Unfortunately my favourite flavor, Ubuntu MATE, will sit out this release cycle: https://distrowatch.com/dwres-mobile.php?resource=showheadli...

I'm sad about that too. I have been running MATE with XMonad for a very long time and has been very happy with it, primarily because the experience has remained entirely unchanged except for a few bugs which have crept in and have never been fixed, probably due to the maintainers not really being active. A particularly hilarious one is that every time the update notifier wants to restart the computer it tries to show an icon in the status bar which begins with `un-.png`. The real icon file is actually missing, but some helpful fallback logic defaults to the closest match which happens to be a 512 pixel wide logo for the United Nations which gets vertically cropped and placed in the status bar.

I just got a new laptop this month and saw that Ubuntu MATE was probably going to be unsupported, so I switched to Manjaro Sway.

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