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US special forces soldier arrested after allegedly winning $400k on Maduro raid

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Re: US special forces soldier arrested after allegedly winning $400k on Maduro raid

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Post by nashashmi »

sigmar wrote: post #42

Since this is relevant to many HN comments, copy-pasted the charges from the pdf indictment in the linked page: Count 1 - Unlawful Use of Confidential Government Information for Personal Gain Count 2 - Theft of Nonpublic Government Information Count 3 - Commodities Fraud Count 4 - Wire Fraud Count 5 - Engaging in a Monetary Transaction in Property Derived from Specified Unlawful Activity

Count 3, how is this a commodity?

Count 1, 4, and 5 are the crime of committing a crime. Crime 1 is commiting a crime for personal reasons. 4 is commiting a crime over the wire. 5 is commiting a crime using money.

The only real crime is Count 2: Theft of info.

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Post by SlinkyOnStairs »

andrepd wrote: post #297
pbkompasz wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like how when people talk about corruption they think about Nancy Pelosi or some other congressman/senator making couple million $ on the stock market over their entire careers due to insider trading. Just last week Trump made a bet of around $1B on the price of oil going down before doing a fake announcement.

I too wonder why "Nancy Pelosi" has become basically synonymous with Congress insider trading when she's not even close to the top of the list among congresspeople.

Sexism will play a role, but a big part of the reason why Pelosi gets so much flak is that she did nothing to stop it when the democrats were in charge, thus directly paving the way to the current shitshow.

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Post by Bender »

looksjjhg wrote: post #177

That’s hilarious … so he’s arrested and put on trial and all the senate and congress are doing the exact same and free? lol

Is there a specific case of someone in congress disclosing classified information by betting on it that we can link to?

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Post by throwaway2037 »

ywvcbk wrote: post #223
throwaway2037 wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would offer a small correction to your point: Instead of "ballistic missile", I would substitute "Shahed-type drones". It is much easier to detect (and shoot down) a ballistic missile than a Shahed-type drone.

I don't think this is true at all? A ballistic missile is way harder and more expensive to shutdown (they are flying at Mach 5-10 while you can outrun that type of drone with a mid tier car on the freeway) Shahed is very primitive in general and not hard to shot down but because its extremely cheap it can be used to overwhelm any type of air defenses. Wasting $4 million to destroy a $50k drone doesn't scale at all.

The OP wrote:

    > Imagine doing an easy tour in your air conditioned Kuwaiti logistics office and then getting blown to bits by a ballistic missile because no one bothered to tell you about the war that was being initiated which would cause such missiles in retaliation.
The purpose of my response wasn't about cost effectiveness; rather, it was about the lethality of a ballistic missile vs Shahed-type drone.

A ballistic missile is easily detected by a network of outer space satellites owned and operated by the US Space Force. Whether or not you can defend against it is a different question. There is sufficient time from the detected of ballistic missile launch to move to a hardened underground bunker. All US bases in the Middle East will have these. Soldiers will regularly train for incoming ballistic missile attacks and when/how to move to underground bunkers. As a result, it is very unlikely that soldiers in an "air conditioned Kuwaiti logistics office" would be killed by an incoming ballistic missile.

On the other hand, a Shahed-type drone (similar to a cruise missile) is much harder to detect because they fly very low and difficult to catch on rader until close to base. As a result, soldiers on base will have much less time to move to underground bunkers.

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Post by Arkhaine_kupo »

andrepd wrote: post #297
pbkompasz wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like how when people talk about corruption they think about Nancy Pelosi or some other congressman/senator making couple million $ on the stock market over their entire careers due to insider trading. Just last week Trump made a bet of around $1B on the price of oil going down before doing a fake announcement.

I too wonder why "Nancy Pelosi" has become basically synonymous with Congress insider trading when she's not even close to the top of the list among congresspeople.

You really need to wonder?

The 10 best performing historical congress people stocks are all republican,a ll men, all funded by lobbys like heritage foundation...

But the face of insider trading becomes a democrat and a woman

Its sooo diffcult to guess why it happened

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Post by dinkumthinkum »

vkou wrote: post #203
int32_64 wrote: post #67

It seems like it would be highly demoralizing to US soldiers that they are prosecuted for betting on the outcomes of the battles they are risking their lives for but those insider trading commanding them aren't.

> It seems like it would be highly demoralizing to US soldiers that they are prosecuted for betting on the outcomes of the battles they are risking their lives for but those insider trading commanding them aren't. Why? The enlisted military has never had any issue with similar double standards in the past. George 'AWOL' Bush handily swept the military vote, as did Donald 'Bone Spurs' Trump. Likewise, veterans routine…

I actually completely agree with your last phrase. Who are you to tell them anything, particularly with such ironic condescension?

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Post by Arkhaine_kupo »

throawayonthe wrote: post #329
blitzar wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just couldn't, in good conscience, keep bombing childrens schools under such demoralising conditions. On the flip side: who if not me and my precision guided munitions, will protect America (and freedom) from the clear and present danger of 8 year old iranian girls.

truly so sad how the troops must feel

"America will bomb you and 15 years later make a movie about how sad the soldiers are based on autobiographies of completely unrepentant sadists" remains true for another decade.

I wonder who the american sniper of iran will be

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Post by kennywinker »

b112 wrote: post #300
the_gipsy wrote: post #295

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's... pretty simple.

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You really read a single wikipedia article and think you understand what happened and why? Impressive levels of dunning-kruger on display.

Go read a book about it, and then if you still want to, you can tell us why this interpretation is wrong.

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Post by rbanffy »

baobabKoodaa wrote: post #316
looksjjhg wrote: post #177

That’s hilarious … so he’s arrested and put on trial and all the senate and congress are doing the exact same and free? lol

Which specific senate and congress members made Polymarket bets on the Maduro raid? Oh, none of them? So it's not "the exact same", then, is it?

Not in their own names, at least.

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Post by SlinkyOnStairs »

shusaku wrote: post #299
chaboud wrote: post #204

I was under the impression that insider influence was the point of these systems? Want something to happen? Bet a lot of money that it won't, pulling the market forces towards the action you want. It goes from "taking out a hit" to "betting that someone will live to next Thursday". It's such an obvious outcome of these systems that I was operating on the assumption that it was the actual point. So maybe the thing thi…

“Super markets trade money for food. An obvious outcome is that someone without money will shoot the employees to steal food. Therefore the purpose of supermarkets is to facilitate murder”

Less so "supermarkets" specifically and moreso "capitalism" and the answers to your conclusion is obviously, yes.

This is why welfare systems exist. Because otherwise the system will push people to crime, especially so in our current implementation of Capitalism where it is possible to become unemployed/unemployable through no fault of one's own.

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