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Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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post #107

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Just don't use snap. No need to throw out the baby woth the bathwater.

Problem is most things are only snap. You can get them ocherwise but not by default

I can't believe people like Snap when in the name of security it breaks basic things such as accessing a folder on a different mount point that the user normally can access perfectly fine.

A packaging system should not break the basic abstractions of an OS.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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...and it's a great thing. Turning it off is another one of those GNOME decisions that are only made because the same feature does not exist in MacOS.

> only made because the same feature does not exist in MacOS. Or in anything that's not X? Speaking personally for me only, I don't think it's a great thing. The clipboards on Linux is... not really a great thing. I for one never know which of the buffers contain what. And this is compounded by the fact that selection may or may not overwrite what's in one of the buffers, and middle click may or may not paste whateve…

Sure, de gustibus non est disputandum.

I, for one, use the different clipboards concurrently all the time, with "highlight & middle-click" probably being the one I use most often. It's the most convenient for me most of the time:

- only two interactions (one drag & one click)

- completely mouse-based (no keyboard interaction necessary)

- hence only requires one hand (look, ma!)

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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post #107

What should I use if I like Ubuntu but not snap, just Debian? Or are there alternatives around? Seems like Ubuntu has the best hardware and driver support so just curious what's new in Linux land.

Just don't use snap. No need to throw out the baby woth the bathwater.

Easier said than done, surprise: apt, who we know and love, is redirected to Snap for an ever-increasing number of packages.

"Don't use Snap", you say? I'll do you one better! Skip Ubuntu. 'Just' use anything else more suitable. Debian is an excellent replacement being upstream, but I hold no illusions over undeclared requirements.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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post #96

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The issue is them adding it back, sometimes even on apt upgrade, or silently installing it as a dependency for certain apps without mentioning it unless you look closely. That gets tiring after a while and I gave up on Ubuntu as even after having removed snap multiple times it always returned.

Did you pin the package's priority or just apt removed it?

I've not used Linux on the desktop for some years⁰ but as I move back this sort of thing is why I'm not considering Ubuntu². If I want to dig into settings like that to keep my preferences I might as well stick with Windows.

Yes, the control to be able to tweak the system to my liking is one of the attractions or Linux, but not when I have to in order to avoid behaviours that I don't want being reasserted.

[not that I expect nor particularly want Ubuntu to change, I just accept that I'm not part of its target audience and I'll be better served elsewhere - choice is a great thing!]

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[0] heading back there now as Windows11 is not happening on my home machines¹, I feel that I shouldn't have let Windows10 happen, looking back.

[1] aside from the laptop that came with it that I'll keep there for Office and DayJob compatibility for a while.

[2] Currently running Debian³ on the other laptop, main desktop will likely go that way if it isn't decommissioned completely, and I use a dock with the laptops instead.

[3] As that is what I use server-side more often than not.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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What should I use if I like Ubuntu but not snap, just Debian? Or are there alternatives around? Seems like Ubuntu has the best hardware and driver support so just curious what's new in Linux land.

If you're using Ubuntu on Jetson then you're out of luck. That platform is tied to Ubuntu.

That statement may have been true in 2014, but

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_Jetson#Software

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Select middle click not working is a stupid decision from GNOME to disable in 50. You can turn it back on with the tweak tool.

Why do we still put up with GNOME? I've spent the last 10 years off and on from Linux. Had I used something other than GNOME, I believe my experience would have been better. I've been on KDE for the last 3-4 years and things work so well I could never imagine going back to GNOME.

I agree. GNOME used to be perfect, now it looks and feels like it's been designed by someone who's never used a computer.

I wish Ubuntu would just give up with GNOME and switch to something more sensible.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Not aimed at you but... no sh*t. The "Rewrite it in Rust" community never heard of the second-system effect. I'd rather use something written in a crappier language that has been battle-tested for decades, personally.

“battle tested for decades” just lost a lot of its value with Mythos and the likes unfortunately. Rewriting in a different language became much faster with Coding agents at the same time. I do agree that the second system effect is real, it’s just that the balance of benefits and drawbacks significantly shifted when it comes to “rewrite in Rust” (not limited to Rust though).

> “battle tested for decades” just lost a lot of its value with Mythos and the likes unfortunately

Isn't it a bit early to make predictions on the future of computer security and how we create good software based on something that's been out for 2 weeks?

Meanwhile the C version of coreutils has been in development for 36 years. There's no rush.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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It's nice as always, but I have some issues. * Select - Middle-click paste does not seem to work * When something requires a password (ie just tried a bitlocker volume) the whole screen is blocked, so no password manager for you (unless you copy it before, or cancel - unplug drive-copy password - replug drive - paste.) * The default tiling does not jive with me, sometimes I don't even know what it wants (it always tr…

> * Select - Middle-click paste does not seem to work They did it on purpose for some reason. If I were you I'd give Plasma a try.

If you want an experience that's similar to GNOME-when-it-was-good, I'd suggest Cinnamon, the desktop environment of Linux Mint.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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What should I use if I like Ubuntu but not snap, just Debian? Or are there alternatives around? Seems like Ubuntu has the best hardware and driver support so just curious what's new in Linux land.

Just install Ubuntu and remove snap. We are doing this for our University pool etc and encountered no issues. Make a list of all ppa before proceeding. What is your use case?

Ubuntu is the Windows 11 of Linux. You have to do brain surgery on it post install, to remove unwanted crap. At least there's the option of using a different distro.
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