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MacBook Neo and how the iPad should be

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Re: MacBook Neo and how the iPad should be

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Post by somebehemoth »

steveBK123 wrote: post #48
paulcole wrote: post #41

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> not productivity/coding! You don’t think a non-artist, non-coder can be productive on an iPad? Some jobs are heavily writing, reading, email/messaging, meetings, etc. Feel link those people can do quite well with an iPad, no?

Typing is subpar next to a Mac so by the time you put the case on it and are in similar size/weight class, for same/MORE money .. why bother with iPad ?

Because it can do both. That may not be valuable to everyone, but it is a beneficial feature for many people. Also, Apple's keyboard case has a fantastic keyboard and trackpad that is a pleasure to type on.

Re: MacBook Neo and how the iPad should be

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Post by pixel_popping »

gambiting wrote: post #52
rchaud wrote: post #49

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Samsung, Motorola and Huawei have had this for years. Samsung DeX is probably the most popular desktop environment of its type, and has been available for 9 years. Plenty of people use it (like myself), but it's too niche of a use case for the masses. The 2011 Motorola Atrix came with a proprietary dock to connect to. Modern desktop environments can use the USB-C 3.2 DP ports on the phone to provide video out. Lapdoc…

The thing is, Samsung DEX works great but I've never met anyone who has heard of it even among people who have owned nothing but Samsung phones forever. Samsung just sucks at advertising the feature. They should sell a bundle of phone + portable USB-C screen + Bluetooth mouse and keyboard and the thing would sell pretty well I would imagine. But right now no one even knows this exists.

I also wouldn't feel safe using Samsung forks for work related stuff where security is very sensitive.

Re: MacBook Neo and how the iPad should be

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Post by rchaud »

pixel_popping wrote: post #72
gambiting wrote: post #52

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The thing is, Samsung DEX works great but I've never met anyone who has heard of it even among people who have owned nothing but Samsung phones forever. Samsung just sucks at advertising the feature. They should sell a bundle of phone + portable USB-C screen + Bluetooth mouse and keyboard and the thing would sell pretty well I would imagine. But right now no one even knows this exists.

I also wouldn't feel safe using Samsung forks for work related stuff where security is very sensitive.

DeX is not a fork. It is a UI layer on the phone that activates when you connect to a USB-C display. There is no difference between doing something on your phone and on DeX.

Re: MacBook Neo and how the iPad should be

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Post by pixel_popping »

rchaud wrote: post #73
pixel_popping wrote: post #72

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I also wouldn't feel safe using Samsung forks for work related stuff where security is very sensitive.

DeX is not a fork. It is a UI layer on the phone that activates when you connect to a USB-C display. There is no difference between doing something on your phone and on DeX.

Yeah I meant the Android forks.

Re: MacBook Neo and how the iPad should be

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Post by christophilus »

endemic wrote: post #50
christophilus wrote: post #30

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This is why I’ve never understood the demand for a touchscreen on a laptop. All of my non-Mac laptops have touchscreens, and I basically never use the touch feature except by accident (e.g. a kid pointing and asking a question and causing some code to highlight).

> demand for a touchscreen on a laptop My take is that consumers didn't want this; it was manufacturers trying to "add value" or sell something new. Same as the recent "AI PC" craze.

I don’t think so. It was one of the most requested features for the Framework 13 for some reason.

Re: MacBook Neo and how the iPad should be

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Post by gambiting »

pixel_popping wrote: post #74
rchaud wrote: post #73

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DeX is not a fork. It is a UI layer on the phone that activates when you connect to a USB-C display. There is no difference between doing something on your phone and on DeX.

Yeah I meant the Android forks.

So you mean you wouldn't feel safe using a Samsung phone period.

Re: MacBook Neo and how the iPad should be

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Post by themadturk »

FeloniousHam wrote: post #63
steveBK123 wrote: post #21

I've used Mac for 20 years and iPad on&off for 10 years.. largely I agree with Craig. Touch on MacOS is basically useless, you won't realize this until you try using an iPad like a MacBook for an extended period of time. Reaching up from keyboard/trackpad to touch the screen quickly gets fatiguing. It is not ergonomic. The iPad is meant to be used in touch mode while in your hands generally. If they were brave they'd…

Strong disagree. I gave up my Macbook for an iPad + (Mini + Jump). I do a fair amount of penciling and consumption, but most of my time is booping around in the window environment with the Magic Keyboard case. Emails, YouTube, WhatsApp, Obsidian, Remoting into more capable machines, sometimes I touch the screen, most times I'm using the trackpad or a mouse.

You're one of the (relatively) few who found the iPad useful for getting actual work done. There are others like you, just not that many. (I tried and failed to make the iPad + Magic Keyboard my only machine.)

Re: MacBook Neo and how the iPad should be

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Post by themadturk »

gambiting wrote: post #51
paultopia wrote: post #45

Hard disagree. The iPad is a fantastic mac replacement for many purposes. I use the iPad Pro w/ the “magic keyboard” case for working essentially whenever I’m not physically in home or office in similar ways that I do my Mac, for two really big reasons: (1) The (11-inch) size is fantastic: you get enough screen real estate to see what you’re reading and writing, but it still fits into an arbitrarily small bag and is…

I finally found someone who uses the cellular feature in laptops! I always wondered who the hell that was for, now I know at least one person.

I don't use it (or need it) myself, but when I was working for a sporting equipment manufacturer a number of years ago, every salesman had a cellular dongle for their laptop. We had to remind them they had direct ethernet connections when they were in the office.

Re: MacBook Neo and how the iPad should be

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Post by paulcole »

steveBK123 wrote: post #48
paulcole wrote: post #41

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> not productivity/coding! You don’t think a non-artist, non-coder can be productive on an iPad? Some jobs are heavily writing, reading, email/messaging, meetings, etc. Feel link those people can do quite well with an iPad, no?

Typing is subpar next to a Mac so by the time you put the case on it and are in similar size/weight class, for same/MORE money .. why bother with iPad ?

It’s not subpar, it’s just different. I find it to be relaxing to be productive on my iPad for a lot of work tasks.

Why would I want to touch a computer when I’m at home when I can use my iPad? Computers aren’t relaxing or fun to use.

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