For anyone curious about the events that led to this decision, I made a timeline that shows how it happened: https://alexjoneslies.com/
The Onion to Take over InfoWars
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Brilliant plans for the future: https://theonion.info/?p=1 > Such is the InfoWars I envision: An infinite virtual surface teeming with ads. Not just ads, but scams! Not just scams, but lies with no object, free radical misinformation, sentences and images so poorly thought out that they are unhealthy even to view for just a few seconds. The InfoWars of old was only the prototype for the hell I know we can build toget…
Makes me think of the old Monty Python joke so funny it kills everyone skit. Which makes me think of a thread years ago I saw on the modern equivalent: a meme so offensive (to literally everyone at once) nobody can see it without having an anger induced aneurism. The skit would be a comical updated take on the Python skit. A hardened memelord shitposter troll is found dead in his basement, surrounded by rotted pizza…
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>deliberately so I’m not entertained that the court is playing an unrealistic and hyberbolic game. I know, I’m a weirdo that wants to see realism and pragmatism in the court systems even if the defendant is a real asshole.
What do you feel would be an outcome to this situation that aligns to the realism and pragmatism you believe the court system should have? All of the threads related to this topic have had a pile of folks going "the amount was too much!" but hardly any of them say what they think an appropriate punishment would look like...
I can only speak for myself, but punitive damages of 1-2 million per complainant (22 I think) seems entirely reasonable and in line with previous rulings? But let me also flip the on it's head, if 1.4 billion dollars is an appropriate punishment to you then is there any amount of money that would be too much?
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I'm loathe to defend Facebook but most people's experience is not yours. The algorithm pushes content you're most likely to engage with, in your case it has nothing to go on so probably pushes whatever causes the most reaction in general.
No matter what you follow if FB thinks you are a man it's going to feed you those foreign near-porn shorts. I'm not sure if it is just what escapes across national boundaries or if social media in other countries is just way more horny, but every time I see a post where the text has been auto-translated from a different language it is thirst trap content. This is true across multiple social media platforms. It's espe…
> No matter what you follow if FB thinks you are a man it's going to feed you those foreign near-porn shorts.
Definitely not, FB knows I'm a man and I don't have anything remotely pornographic in my feed with any regularity because I don't interact with it when it does.
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No joke, I use Facebook every year or so to access the marketplace and at the time my feed was roughly half rage-bait, and the other half being what I can only describe as AI-generated almost-pornography. Both had thousands of what looked like genuinely real interactions per post, mostly from developing country users.
I'm loathe to defend Facebook but most people's experience is not yours. The algorithm pushes content you're most likely to engage with, in your case it has nothing to go on so probably pushes whatever causes the most reaction in general.
> I'm loathe to defend Facebook but most people's experience is not yours. The algorithm pushes content you're most likely to engage with, in your case it has nothing to go on so probably pushes whatever causes the most reaction in general.
It think that's a contradiction: if your latter statement is correct, his experience is a peek at "most people's experience."
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https://babylonbee.com/news/alex-jones-worried-people-will-s...
Babylon Bee forces you to accept cookies to use their site. Worth avoiding.
> Babylon Bee forces you to accept cookies to use their site. Worth avoiding.
Use uBlock and block javascript by default with NoScript. I saw nothing about cookies and just got the article.
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I'm concerned they won't know what to do without Alex. Already going back over shows from 2006...
The likeness of Alex Jones was an asset of Infowars - according to Alex Jones. So Alex Jones gave up his likeness to The Onion and doesn't own it himself any more. The Onion can still have Alex Jones on the show - played by an actor - and Alex Jones will have to play a character other than himself if he ever does another show.
That's one of the most absurd things I've ever heard. I love it.
Re: The Onion to Take over InfoWars
#178For anyone curious about the events that led to this decision, I made a timeline that shows how it happened: https://alexjoneslies.com/
the AI-generated imagery is a non-starter for me
Re: The Onion to Take over InfoWars
#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
Brilliant plans for the future: https://theonion.info/?p=1 > Such is the InfoWars I envision: An infinite virtual surface teeming with ads. Not just ads, but scams! Not just scams, but lies with no object, free radical misinformation, sentences and images so poorly thought out that they are unhealthy even to view for just a few seconds. The InfoWars of old was only the prototype for the hell I know we can build toget…
Makes me think of the old Monty Python joke so funny it kills everyone skit. Which makes me think of a thread years ago I saw on the modern equivalent: a meme so offensive (to literally everyone at once) nobody can see it without having an anger induced aneurism. The skit would be a comical updated take on the Python skit. A hardened memelord shitposter troll is found dead in his basement, surrounded by rotted pizza…
it makes me think of The Entertainment from Infinite Jest, where the new Infowars just kills everyone who observes it by rendering them unable to do anything else, even make an agent for it
Re: The Onion to Take over InfoWars
#180Earlier quoted context omitted.
What do you feel would be an outcome to this situation that aligns to the realism and pragmatism you believe the court system should have? All of the threads related to this topic have had a pile of folks going "the amount was too much!" but hardly any of them say what they think an appropriate punishment would look like...
I can only speak for myself, but punitive damages of 1-2 million per complainant (22 I think) seems entirely reasonable and in line with previous rulings? But let me also flip the on it's head, if 1.4 billion dollars is an appropriate punishment to you then is there any amount of money that would be too much?
I don't think your values are sufficient deterrent for the kind of behavior Alex Jones and InfoWars exhibited and substantially profited from. They made more than the 22-44 million you're suggesting. They would still have profited from their actions.
I think it needs to be large enough to be a real deterrent. So it needs to be large enough that there is a real risk of turning substantial profit into substantial loss. "What if we get sued for $existentiallyLargeAmount?" needs to be part of the business math when deciding whether to tell lies for profit.
"More money than exists in the world" would clearly be too much. But I'm absolutely fine with a company and its chief officers being left penniless for such behavior. So I'm definitely fine with taking everything the company has, taking everything the chief officers have, and possibly adding a bit of debt on top of that.