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Ping-pong robot beats top-level human players

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Post by philwelch »

fc417fc802 wrote: post #120
fragmede wrote: post #118

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That breaks the building. If you want to destroy the whole thing, conventional weapons has that covered. Drones can't get through nets and doors. Though, have you considered packs of robot dogs with machine guns and one arm/hand? Cheaper than a fully bipedal humanoid robot.

> have you considered packs of robot dogs with machine guns I don't have it to hand but already a few years ago a defense contractor had attached quite a heavy rifle on some sort of articulable mount to the top of something that looked exactly like Boston Dynamic's Spot. I'm not sure how much ammo it was capable of carrying or what it's range was but it's definitely a concerning development. I think I might become an…

The Marines did it with a rocket launcher. https://www.twz.com/marines-test-fire-robot-dog-armed-with-r...

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Post by inanutshellus »

drfloyd51 wrote: post #181
Filligree wrote: post #178

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I refuse. My code will be formatted according to my own preferences.

Imagine a world where your editor shows you what you want to see… but saves in a standard format for sharing.

So long as my format is the standard one, that all newcomers an unopinionateds see by default and thus my opinions rule forever... yeah! great idea! otherwise... oh hayol no.

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Post by throw4847285 »

antonvs wrote: post #161
throw4847285 wrote: post #53

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You say that now, but once we perfect AMBAC technology and accidentally release large numbers of Minovsky particles, we will need humanoid combat vehicles to fight our battles!

> Minovsky particles I love the way these things always have to have names that sound exotic or menacing to English speakers. Where are the Smith particles or the Jim particles?

Well in this case it was made by and for Japanese speakers.

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Post by philwelch »

samiv wrote: post #188
Markoff wrote: post #134

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Ah geez, again this China invading Taiwan nonsense, China ain't USA, Israel or Russia attacking sovereign countries, they just use money to take over, they will do exactly same with Taiwan. Eventually Taiwanese people will figure out that siding with agressive country run by crazy old men is worse option than siding with China. China has all time in the world not being run by crazies with 5 year election terms rushin…

The Taiwanese while being proud Taiwanese (rather than Chinese) are culturally Chinese. After all they came from the mainland after having lost the civil war. What you said about them siding with China against a common aggressor makes sense. In fact they already did this against the Japanese and took a pause from their onw conflict to fight the Japanese together during WW2. And it's also true that this "China aggress…

The majority of Taiwanese are the descendants of the people who lived there before 1949, not the descendants of the Chinese Nationalists who fled there at the end of the civil war. In fact, the Taiwanese were, uniquely among East Asian nationalities, relatively happy being part of the Japanese Empire and have maintained good relations with Japan ever since.

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Post by mghackerlady »

phtrivier wrote: post #20

My biggest fear at the moment is robot armies and police forces. Case in point : we're all expecting China needs to invade Taiwan soon, or they will run out of soldiers because of the one child policies of the 70s/80s. Meanwhile, Ukraine is holding up against a "modern" army with quickly assembled drones. So it all seems a bit like "they'll never put tanks through the Ardennes", sort of ? Where and when will the firs…

Is it possible South Koreans edge in RTS games is from their compulsory military service?

Also, China is not likely to invade Taiwan any time soon. It'd be geopolitical suicide and they're currently in a very good spot geopolitically. Invading the country with the rest of the worlds chip fabs is the quickest way to lose that

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Post by philwelch »

halfnhalf wrote: post #6

Don't table tennis players learn to predict how the ball will act based on their opponents movements? Seems like if they aren't able to do that with a robot opponent (who doesn't look or behave like a human) then they wouldn't be able to play at their best.

Interesting point. There are a lot of sports (football, basketball) where the cumulative rules end up requiring any player to have a humanoid form (references to elbows and knees and hands and feet, etc.), but even in ping pong it kind of seems like cheating to have a non-humanoid form factor.

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Post by tgv »

nilslindemann wrote: post #138

I find Sony's work valuable. In my opinion, the primary purpose of AI is still, first and foremost, to relieve us of the physical labor we don't want to do. The next step to be taken is to create a universal basic income. Evolution will then unfold, as creative people will be able to dedicate their whole life undisturbed to the problems they deem important. Here a video where one can actually see the robot in action:…

UBI is a phantom. If (when?) AI takes over and everyone is put on UBI, the problems we'll deem important will be finding enough food to survive.

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Post by watwut »

phtrivier wrote: post #20

My biggest fear at the moment is robot armies and police forces. Case in point : we're all expecting China needs to invade Taiwan soon, or they will run out of soldiers because of the one child policies of the 70s/80s. Meanwhile, Ukraine is holding up against a "modern" army with quickly assembled drones. So it all seems a bit like "they'll never put tanks through the Ardennes", sort of ? Where and when will the firs…

> Case in point : we're all expecting China needs to invade Taiwan soon, or they will run out of soldiers because of the one child policies of the 70s/80s.

I expect China to invade Taiwan, because they now know they likely can. I do not expect them to "run out of soldiers".

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Post by watwut »

munksbeer wrote: post #142
phtrivier wrote: post #20

My biggest fear at the moment is robot armies and police forces. Case in point : we're all expecting China needs to invade Taiwan soon, or they will run out of soldiers because of the one child policies of the 70s/80s. Meanwhile, Ukraine is holding up against a "modern" army with quickly assembled drones. So it all seems a bit like "they'll never put tanks through the Ardennes", sort of ? Where and when will the firs…

Silly Devil's Advocate argument: What if there are no human soldiers or fighters at all? No-one needs to die in a war again, but wars are won by the side with the stronger tech. What are the possible outcomes of this? Technologically superior countries start a race to acquire more territory, so large blocks expand and absorb other countries? More wars? Fewer wars? More suffering? Less suffering? Disclaimer: I'm not i…

> What if there are no human soldiers or fighters at all? No-one needs to die in a war again, but wars are won by the side with the stronger tech.

Ultimately, the side with more arms will be killing humans, soldiers and citizens of the other side. They simply wont stop at destruction of machines.

Look at Iran war - USA can bomb them without threatening themselves. Or Lebanon - Israel can bomb them with no repercussions. In both cases, weaker side has people killed. In the second one, in an astonishing rate.

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