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Re: I am building a cloud

#43
post #18

I know its a personal blog but the writing style is really full of himself. What a martyr, starting a second company.

It's hard to see the scale of what he's doing. Could be:

- I'm building a server farm in my homelab.

- I'm doing a small startup to see if this idea works.

- We're taking on AWS by being more cost effective. Funding secured.

Re: I am building a cloud

#46
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agree, I used to always use Heroku or Render style platforms for my own software, but nowadays I just have a Linux server with Docker Compose and a Cron job. The cron job every minute runs docker pull (downloads latest image) and docker up -d (switches to new version only if there is a new version). And put caddy in front for the HTTPS. This has been very cheap and reliable for years now.

What images are you running that you'd need the latest version up after just a minute?

I'm not the OP but I'd clarify the cron check for new versions is done every minute. So when new images are pushed they're picked up quickly.

OP is not saying they push new versions at such a high frequency they need checks every one minute.

The choice of one minute vs 15 minute is implementation detail and when architected like this costs nothing.

I hope that helps. Again this is my own take.

Re: I am building a cloud

#47
That's really cool!

One thing I'm confused with is how to create a shared resources like e.g. a redis server and connect to it from other vms? It looks now quite cumbersome to setup tailscale or connect via ssh between VMS. Also what about egress? My guess is that all traffic billed at 0.07$ per GB. It looks like this cloud is made to run statefull agents and personal isolated projects and distributed systems or horizontal scaling isn't a good fit for it?

Also I'm curious why not railway like billing per resource utilization pricing model? It’s very convenient and I would argue is made for agents era.

I did setup for my friends and family a railway project that spawns a vm with disk (statefull service) via a tg bot and runs an openclaw like agent - it costs me something like 2$ to run 9 vms like this.

Re: I am building a cloud

#48
post #3

That's insane funding so congrats. Just shows I'm the Dropbox commentator. I have what exe provides on my own and am shocked by the value these abstractions provide everyone else!! One off containers on my own hardware spin up spin down run async agents, etc, tailscale auth, team can share or connect easily by name.

Investment is done by relationships, belief in a future vision and team, and growth metrics like number of paying customers. The technology itself in its current form is not valuable

Sobering comment for all the little people like myself who dream of owning a business based on a vision of cool tech that just does what it promises (as opposed to all the corporate shovelware out there)

Re: I am building a cloud

#49
> Agents, by making it easiest to write code, means there will be a lot more software. Economists would call this an instance of Jevons paradox. Each of us will write more programs, for fun and for work.

There is already so much software out there, which isn't used by anyone. Just take a look at any appstore. I don't understand why we are so obsessed with cranking out even more, whereas the obvious usecase for LLMs should be to write better software. Let's hope the focus shifts from code generation to something else. There are many ways LLMs can assist in writing better code.

Re: I am building a cloud

#50
Much respect for the ambitous plan, I wish I could do such bold thinking. I am running a small PHP PaaS (fortrabbit) for more than 10 years. For me, it's not only "scratch your own itch", but also "know your audience". So, a limited feature set with a high level of abstraction can also be useful for some users > clear path.
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