Israel live-tweets assault on Gaza • Hacker News Board

Re: Israel live-tweets assault on Gaza

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Post by GuiA » Thu, Nov 15, 2012, 5:10 AM UTC

DanBC wrote: post #4

ChuckMcM wrote: post #2

I shared this because for me seems like a significant change on the force multiplier of the Internet. How will it affect the thoughts and impressions of folks who deal with this locally, or remotely? Will it inure us to violence or create hypersensitivity? Out of control rumor mills or inability to cover up anything. I don't know where this road leads but I'm not sure I even want to know.

Do you know anyone who has changed their opinion about anything to do with Israel? These tweets just re-enforce people's existing opinion. Also, 'ELIMINATED' is a distasteful way of saying 'DEAD' or 'KILLED'.

The US as a whole tends to be very pro-Israel.

Re: Israel live-tweets assault on Gaza

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Post by marshallp » Thu, Nov 15, 2012, 5:12 AM UTC

confluence wrote: post #5

Holy shit! What the fuck are they doing? This is absolutely insane! What better way to create more terrorists than by laughing in their faces, publishing military operations on Twitter as if they were trivial events, showing military kill strikes on YouTube and using game like graphics stating their leaders have been "eliminated". Do you want to enrage your enemy into more violence or do you want to win? Do your mili…

Totally agree. It's like medieval times.

There's a pretty simple solution to the israel-palestine problem, offer either one of them a bribe to relocate to some empty part of Africa, or better yet, a patch of land in the desert in america or mexico. Put a fence and immigration controls around it, problem solved.

The US could spend way less on this then the current military aid it does to isreal/arabia.

Re: Israel live-tweets assault on Gaza

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Post by sk5t » Thu, Nov 15, 2012, 5:16 AM UTC

GuiA wrote: post #11

DanBC wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you know anyone who has changed their opinion about anything to do with Israel? These tweets just re-enforce people's existing opinion. Also, 'ELIMINATED' is a distasteful way of saying 'DEAD' or 'KILLED'.

The US as a whole tends to be very pro-Israel.

I doubt that a majority of the American people support Israel the way that a majority of American politicians apparently do. My perception is that Zionists are a very powerful special interest group.

Re: Israel live-tweets assault on Gaza

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Post by mcantelon » Thu, Nov 15, 2012, 5:22 AM UTC

sk5t wrote: post #13

GuiA wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US as a whole tends to be very pro-Israel.

I doubt that a majority of the American people support Israel the way that a majority of American politicians apparently do. My perception is that Zionists are a very powerful special interest group.

Yup. AIPAC makes it rain.

Re: Israel live-tweets assault on Gaza

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Post by hindsightbias » Thu, Nov 15, 2012, 5:23 AM UTC

confluence wrote: post #5

Holy shit! What the fuck are they doing? This is absolutely insane! What better way to create more terrorists than by laughing in their faces, publishing military operations on Twitter as if they were trivial events, showing military kill strikes on YouTube and using game like graphics stating their leaders have been "eliminated". Do you want to enrage your enemy into more violence or do you want to win? Do your mili…

You are confusing a feature for a bug here.

The objective requires an enemy.

Re: Israel live-tweets assault on Gaza

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Post by cup » Thu, Nov 15, 2012, 5:26 AM UTC

An adaption from an earlier comment of mine:

Lets be frank, this was a targeted assassination by a nation state that consistently tries to paint itself as a beacon of democracy in the region.

Say all you want about Ahmed Jabari but his modus operandi was a direct result of a life of occupation and subjugation. You don't go into prison at the age of 22 and come out 13 years later a happy individual. I mean it was only 6 years ago that Hamas was democratically elected in a process considered fair and transparant, only for the elections to be found null and void by those (US/Israel et al) outside of Gaza!

Edit: On a side note, I wonder whether many people know that Likud, the Netanyahus political party, does not recognise Palestines right to exist!

Re: Israel live-tweets assault on Gaza

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Post by philwelch » Thu, Nov 15, 2012, 5:27 AM UTC

confluence wrote: post #5

Holy shit! What the fuck are they doing? This is absolutely insane! What better way to create more terrorists than by laughing in their faces, publishing military operations on Twitter as if they were trivial events, showing military kill strikes on YouTube and using game like graphics stating their leaders have been "eliminated". Do you want to enrage your enemy into more violence or do you want to win? Do your mili…

> This is why the US military didn't release anything to do with Osama's assassination

I distinctly remember footage, on al-Jazeera of all networks, of Americans outside the White House singing "na na na na hey hey hey goodbye". OK, nothing official, but it's there. But oddly, no reprisals.

Re: Israel live-tweets assault on Gaza

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Post by stickfigure » Thu, Nov 15, 2012, 5:27 AM UTC

confluence wrote: post #5

Holy shit! What the fuck are they doing? This is absolutely insane! What better way to create more terrorists than by laughing in their faces, publishing military operations on Twitter as if they were trivial events, showing military kill strikes on YouTube and using game like graphics stating their leaders have been "eliminated". Do you want to enrage your enemy into more violence or do you want to win? Do your mili…

Wild guess: This is for domestic consumption, or consumption by western allies. The face you present to your own citizens is not the face you present to your enemy. Most Palestinians probably don't read english anyways.

Re: Israel live-tweets assault on Gaza

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Post by philwelch » Thu, Nov 15, 2012, 5:28 AM UTC

cup wrote: post #16

An adaption from an earlier comment of mine: Lets be frank, this was a targeted assassination by a nation state that consistently tries to paint itself as a beacon of democracy in the region. Say all you want about Ahmed Jabari but his modus operandi was a direct result of a life of occupation and subjugation. You don't go into prison at the age of 22 and come out 13 years later a happy individual. I mean it was only…

I find it very strange that people criticize Israel for assassinating terrorist, but say nothing about Obama's kill list or drone strikes.

Re: Israel live-tweets assault on Gaza

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Post by earlyresort » Thu, Nov 15, 2012, 5:29 AM UTC

confluence wrote: post #5

Holy shit! What the fuck are they doing? This is absolutely insane! What better way to create more terrorists than by laughing in their faces, publishing military operations on Twitter as if they were trivial events, showing military kill strikes on YouTube and using game like graphics stating their leaders have been "eliminated". Do you want to enrage your enemy into more violence or do you want to win? Do your mili…

The Arab world is already awash in antisemitic propaganda. This Twitter account isn't going to move the needle there.

No, this account is aimed at Americans. It shares short, simple, true messages: Hamas is a terrorist organization, Hamas launches hundreds of rockets into Israel, Israel is defending itself, and Israel is rather good at defending itself. The messages are designed to be shared with friends, in order to combat anti-Israeli attitudes. If you look at the IDF's blog (http://www.idfblog.com/), they've even added some game mechanics to the mix with their 'IDF Ranks'.

Personally, I think it's brilliant.