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Re: Over-editing refers to a model modifying code beyond what is necessary

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I'm either in a minority or a silent majority. Claude Code surpasses all my expectations. When it makes a mistake like over-editing, I explain the mistake, it fixes it, and I ask it to record what it learned in the relevant project-specific skills. It rarely makes that mistake again. When the skill file gets big, I ask Claude to clean and compact it. It does a great job. It doesn't really make sense economically for…

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Re: Over-editing refers to a model modifying code beyond what is necessary

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post #136

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It’s terribly slow

I get it, but if tomorrow every inference provider doubled costs I still understand my applications code and can continue to work on it myself.

I hear this a lot but I don't think decades of experience atrophies irretrievably so quickly as to make it worth it (alone) to abstain from making full use of these tools. I still read and direct enough of the architecture to not be lost in the code it generates. Maybe you haven't tried using agents to reorganize/refactor as much - I have cleaner code than I did before when it was done by hand, because I can afford to tackle debts.

I also don't find the permissions it prompts for very meaningful. Permission to use a file search tool? Permission to make a web request? It's a clumsy way to slow it down enough for me to catch up.

Re: Over-editing refers to a model modifying code beyond what is necessary

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The idea being that if you're working in an area, you should refactor and tidy it up and clean up "tech debt" while there. This is horrible practice, and very typical junior behavior that needs to be corrected against. Unless you wrote it, Chesterton's Fence applies; you need to think deeply for a long time about why that code exists as it does, and that's not part of your current task. Nothing worse than dealing wi…

That is the flip side of what you're arguing against, and is also very typical junior behaviour that needs to be corrected against. Tech debt needs to be dealt with when it makes sense. Many times it will be right there and then as you're approaching the code to do something else. Other times it should be tackled later with more thought. The latter case is frequently a symptom of the absence of the former. In Extreme…

Indeed there's a distinction that needs to be made here between "not refactoring this code means I'll need to add hacks" and "Oh I'll just clean that up while I'm in here." The former can be necessary, but the latter is something you learn with experience to avoid.

Re: Over-editing refers to a model modifying code beyond what is necessary

#155

I'm either in a minority or a silent majority. Claude Code surpasses all my expectations. When it makes a mistake like over-editing, I explain the mistake, it fixes it, and I ask it to record what it learned in the relevant project-specific skills. It rarely makes that mistake again. When the skill file gets big, I ask Claude to clean and compact it. It does a great job. It doesn't really make sense economically for…

> I'm either in a minority or a silent majority. Claude Code surpasses all my expectations.

I looked at some stats yesterday and was surprised to learn Cursor AI now writes 97% of my code at work. Mostly through cloud agents (watching it work is too distracting for me)

My approach is very simple: Just Talk To It

People way overthink this stuff. It works pretty good. Sharing .md files and hyperfocusing on various orchestrations and prompt hacks of the week feels as interesting as going deep on vim shortcuts and IDE skins.

Just ask for what you want, be clear, give good feedback. That’s it

Re: Over-editing refers to a model modifying code beyond what is necessary

#156

I'm either in a minority or a silent majority. Claude Code surpasses all my expectations. When it makes a mistake like over-editing, I explain the mistake, it fixes it, and I ask it to record what it learned in the relevant project-specific skills. It rarely makes that mistake again. When the skill file gets big, I ask Claude to clean and compact it. It does a great job. It doesn't really make sense economically for…

When I see people talking about Claude Code becoming "unusable" for them recently, I believe them, but I don't understand. It's a deeply flawed and buggy piece of software but it's very effective. One of the strangest things about AI to me is that everyone seems to have a radically different experience.

Re: Over-editing refers to a model modifying code beyond what is necessary

#157

I'm either in a minority or a silent majority. Claude Code surpasses all my expectations. When it makes a mistake like over-editing, I explain the mistake, it fixes it, and I ask it to record what it learned in the relevant project-specific skills. It rarely makes that mistake again. When the skill file gets big, I ask Claude to clean and compact it. It does a great job. It doesn't really make sense economically for…

I think a lot of use have implemented our own ad hoc self-improvement checks into our agentic workflows. My observations are the same as yours.

Re: Over-editing refers to a model modifying code beyond what is necessary

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post #155

I'm either in a minority or a silent majority. Claude Code surpasses all my expectations. When it makes a mistake like over-editing, I explain the mistake, it fixes it, and I ask it to record what it learned in the relevant project-specific skills. It rarely makes that mistake again. When the skill file gets big, I ask Claude to clean and compact it. It does a great job. It doesn't really make sense economically for…

> I'm either in a minority or a silent majority. Claude Code surpasses all my expectations. I looked at some stats yesterday and was surprised to learn Cursor AI now writes 97% of my code at work. Mostly through cloud agents (watching it work is too distracting for me) My approach is very simple: Just Talk To It People way overthink this stuff. It works pretty good. Sharing .md files and hyperfocusing on various orch…

I love the IDE skins analogy. Very true.

Re: Over-editing refers to a model modifying code beyond what is necessary

#159

I'm either in a minority or a silent majority. Claude Code surpasses all my expectations. When it makes a mistake like over-editing, I explain the mistake, it fixes it, and I ask it to record what it learned in the relevant project-specific skills. It rarely makes that mistake again. When the skill file gets big, I ask Claude to clean and compact it. It does a great job. It doesn't really make sense economically for…

When I see people talking about Claude Code becoming "unusable" for them recently, I believe them, but I don't understand. It's a deeply flawed and buggy piece of software but it's very effective. One of the strangest things about AI to me is that everyone seems to have a radically different experience.

I use it through the desktop app, which has a lot of features I appreciate. Today it was implementing a feature. It came across a semi-related bug that wasn’t a stopper but should really be fixed before go live. Instead of tackling it itself or mentioning it at the final summary (where it becomes easy to miss), it triggered a modal inside the Claude app with a description of the issue and two choices: fix in another session or fix in current session. Really good way to preserve context integrity and save tokens!
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