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Scores decline again for 13-year-old students in reading and mathematics (2023)

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Re: Scores decline again for 13-year-old students in reading and mathematics (2023)

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Post by SirFatty »

biscuits1 wrote: post #5

I grepped for "covid" and "COVID-19" on all presented text. 1 result found. ". . . did you ever attend school from home or somewhere else outside of school because of the COVID-19 outbreak?" Can someone else confirm? Not enough investigation there. Of course, the trend was already going down, but the new slope is obvious. Prediction in next three years will be same or greater - technology, ai, screentime.

I know the talking heads have been saying that as well, but my bet is on social media and phone use being the majority stakeholder in this failure.

Re: Scores decline again for 13-year-old students in reading and mathematics (2023)

#13

Post by lotsofpulp »

SirFatty wrote: post #11
biscuits1 wrote: post #5

I grepped for "covid" and "COVID-19" on all presented text. 1 result found. ". . . did you ever attend school from home or somewhere else outside of school because of the COVID-19 outbreak?" Can someone else confirm? Not enough investigation there. Of course, the trend was already going down, but the new slope is obvious. Prediction in next three years will be same or greater - technology, ai, screentime.

I know the talking heads have been saying that as well, but my bet is on social media and phone use being the majority stakeholder in this failure.

I would bet on a culture of lowered expectations.

Re: Scores decline again for 13-year-old students in reading and mathematics (2023)

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Post by [deleted] »

SirFatty wrote: post #11
biscuits1 wrote: post #5

I grepped for "covid" and "COVID-19" on all presented text. 1 result found. ". . . did you ever attend school from home or somewhere else outside of school because of the COVID-19 outbreak?" Can someone else confirm? Not enough investigation there. Of course, the trend was already going down, but the new slope is obvious. Prediction in next three years will be same or greater - technology, ai, screentime.

I know the talking heads have been saying that as well, but my bet is on social media and phone use being the majority stakeholder in this failure.

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Re: Scores decline again for 13-year-old students in reading and mathematics (2023)

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Post by peyton »

SirFatty wrote: post #11
biscuits1 wrote: post #5

I grepped for "covid" and "COVID-19" on all presented text. 1 result found. ". . . did you ever attend school from home or somewhere else outside of school because of the COVID-19 outbreak?" Can someone else confirm? Not enough investigation there. Of course, the trend was already going down, but the new slope is obvious. Prediction in next three years will be same or greater - technology, ai, screentime.

I know the talking heads have been saying that as well, but my bet is on social media and phone use being the majority stakeholder in this failure.

Chronic absence is up and truancy is down according to this report. Not really what I’d expect for phone use—both should trend flat or up.

I wonder if there’s a way to validate the hypothesis that post-shutdown, some of the cohort that would have missed a day here and there now see school as optional and miss more days.

Overall, the reported effect is sad and should be addressed. These are people’s lives.

Re: Scores decline again for 13-year-old students in reading and mathematics (2023)

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Post by tdb7893 »

letsbehonest1 wrote: post #12
tdb7893 wrote: post #8

I cannot wait for one of my uncles to post this about how kids these days can't do anything so I can point out that the scores were even lower in his age bracket.

oh, you'll get him with that one!

Haha, I wouldn't actually say anything (sarcasm never transfers on the internet). More of it's interesting that many baby boomers I know in real life think the sky is falling based on metrics that are better than they were when they were kids, and they didn't even have COVID as an excuse.

Re: Scores decline again for 13-year-old students in reading and mathematics (2023)

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Post by kpw94 »

godelski wrote: post #7

The peak was in 2012 2012 2020 2023 Reading 263 260 256 Math 285 280 271 So people are looking at Covid and that's probably not enough. The scores are closer to those of the 80's than those in the 90's and 00's

My non-controversial theory: It's all the attention-span-shortening stuff.

- tech apps starting with infinite scroll (facebook, 9gag, Instagram, etc.)

- media/tech shortened content: shorter tv shows, short video content, etc.

(Tiktok is the "state of the art" of those 2 trends pushed to the max)

Specifically, we're getting more & more addicted to things that increase the dopamine spikes frequency, making it increasingly difficult to go in deep focus work.

Re: Scores decline again for 13-year-old students in reading and mathematics (2023)

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Post by jacobsenscott »

biscuits1 wrote: post #5

I grepped for "covid" and "COVID-19" on all presented text. 1 result found. ". . . did you ever attend school from home or somewhere else outside of school because of the COVID-19 outbreak?" Can someone else confirm? Not enough investigation there. Of course, the trend was already going down, but the new slope is obvious. Prediction in next three years will be same or greater - technology, ai, screentime.

> technology, ai, screentime

Significant parts of our society and government are actively hostile to education. Blaming the students is convenient, but probably not accurate.

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