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Scoring Show HN submissions for AI design patterns

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Re: Scoring Show HN submissions for AI design patterns

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>if AI saves you time, why wouldn't you use it AI might (might not, but often does!) also save you from doing original thinking in the domain, which in a show my side project is what people are interested in

I don’t know if that’s true, I made a little web app for displaying the schedule for my team based on our billable hours, and I didn’t do any of the scripting myself but I did have to think a lot about what the app would do and what it would look like and what kind of functionality I wanted, tradeoffs between functionality and specific use cases, etc. It just made the scripting part go faster, that’s all.

That adds up over time, though, and it works in reverse. AI will always be able to read and write faster than a person can. You may be able to write the script, but in the time it would take to /literally/ write it, you're on to the next thing. And if that script is actually a feature that spans two or three or 10 files, now you're really cooking.

Re: Scoring Show HN submissions for AI design patterns

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post #49

This is great, now we can better disguise slopware!

These designs are now the trend, though. So they will influence how human designed/built websites also look.

Yeah they are the trend, so they will probably cause a polarized response - some will find it cliche and reject it, others will coalesce around the standard.

Re: Scoring Show HN submissions for AI design patterns

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LLM generated UI for MVPs and explorations seems acceptable, but I don't read every Show post (maybe I should!). But when tinkering becomes a product it should have its UI revised when starting to take it seriously -- human touch for Human Interfaces pays off (even if AI augmented in the effort).

The other issue of HN being inundated with AI bots is related, but a kind of different problem.

Re: Scoring Show HN submissions for AI design patterns

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post #8

I expect most side-projects are being built with AI-assistance now. Side projects are typically time constrained - if AI saves you time, why wouldn't you use it? They're also the ideal place to try out new AI tools that your professional work might not let you experiment with. (The headline of this piece doesn't really do it justice - it misuses "vibe coded" and fails to communicate that the substance of the post is…

> if AI saves you time, why wouldn't you use it? Because generally speaking, stuff that is AI generated is largely devoid of value. If it’s AI generated anyone can prompt it into existence, so the likely hood that someone will find value in and use what you made is approximately zero. What you made is likely low quality, since you vibe coded it with little effort and that always shows . Lastly you don’t even get to e…

I've found that value is largely derived from polish and vision.

It's easy to prompt some stuff into existence over a weekend. It is hard to polish it, fix bugs, have tidy UX, and so on. There's this meme going around (maybe from that Silicon Valley show?) where the grey-beard says he is valued for his taste and his conviction in that taste. This is -- fortunately or not -- reality.

Vision and taste won't get you the whole way, but they are a huge part of the equation. This is why Apple, for example, was so successful under Jobs: he had vision, and he had good taste.

Re: Scoring Show HN submissions for AI design patterns

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post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps a year ago “vibe coding” was indicative of a low quality product. It seems many have not updated their understanding to match today’s capabilities. I am vibe coding. That does not mean I am incompetent or that the product will be bad. I have 10 years of experience. Using agentic AI to implement, iterate, and debug issues is now the workflow most teams are targeting. While last year chances were slim for the a…

No, it is still indicative of a low quality product. And I say that as someone who has probably been agentic coding longer than you have. Indicative in my dictionary doesn't mean definitive. It just makes it much more likely. You can make quality products while LLMs write >99% of the code. This has been possible for more than a year, so it's not a lack of updating of beliefs that is the issue. I've done so myself. Ra…

I've been neck deep in a personal project since January that heavily leverages LLMs for the coding.

Most of my time has been spent fitting abstractions together, trying to find meaningful relationships in a field that is still somewhat ill-defined. I suppose I could have thrown lots of cash at it and had it 'done' in a weekend, but I hate that idea.

As it stands, I know what works and what doesn't (to the degree I can, I'm still learning, and I'll acknowledge I'm not super knowledgeable in most things) but I'm trying to apply what I know to a domain I don't readily understand well.

Re: Scoring Show HN submissions for AI design patterns

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post #105

off topic AI-related anecdote: at my workplace the phrase in status/report-out meetings "I built" now means "I asked claude to build" All of a sudden managers, architects (who haven't written code in a decade), and directors are all building tools so now we're debugging the tools "they built" and why our product isn't working with them.

A "you built it, you fix it" policy would be lovely in this situation.

Re: Scoring Show HN submissions for AI design patterns

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Shad/cn is a Vercel shipped batteries included framework similar to Bootstrap in the jQuery days. I don’t think that by itself is going to be a good validation of AI slop because it’s a common stack with the Vercel next.js base. And it lets you do a lot of customization so you don’t need to reinvent the wheels on things like accordions and dropdowns.

> Shad/cn is a Vercel shipped batteries included framework similar to Bootstrap in the jQuery days. Shadcn works for Vercel, but is actually a human being (I think?). The UI framework is called shadcn/ui.

Reminded me of this https://stallman-copypasta.github.io/
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