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Scoring Show HN submissions for AI design patterns

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Re: Scoring Show HN submissions for AI design patterns

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Post by raincole »

What missing from the article is that they didn't use the same "slop score" to measure Show HN posts from Why? Let me guess: because these patterns were frequently seen in human-made sites too, but that won't fit the narrative.

Remember, several AI detectors claimed Declaration Of Independence was AI-generated[0]. Keep this info in mind when someone (like the author of this article) proudly shows you their home-made AI detector.

[0]: https://dallasexpress.com/state/zerogpt-flags-1836-texas-dec...

Re: Scoring Show HN submissions for AI design patterns

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Post by pphysch »

patorjk wrote: post #126
slibhb wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just chiming in to say I don't care at all about accessibility and I find it bewildering that every thread sharing some project has a comment like this.

There's a whole industry around suing website owners who have websites that aren't accessible. It's kind of messed up. The WSJ did a story on it a while back: https://www.wsj.com/business/entrepreneurship/small-business...

Ironically this is perhaps the main motivation why a lot of companies force accessibility requirements internally. "We don't want an ADA lawsuit"

Now if only there were an ADA for website performance...

Re: Scoring Show HN submissions for AI design patterns

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Post by romaniv »

sunir wrote: post #76

Yes, it's the September That Never Ended again. It's fun to complain about the good ol' days, but I'd rather face the world as it is and find the joy in it. http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/S/September-that-never-ended... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September The advantage of having so many ideas being tried and published is we are exploring the space of possibility faster, and so there's more to learn from.…

> It's fun to complain about the good ol' days, but I'd rather face the world as it is and find the joy in it.

This is a manipulative combination of condescension, gaslighting and emotionalization.

"It's fun to complain" trivializes and dismisses a valid observation about the content being submitted as self-indulgent whining.

"I'd rather face the world" implies that people who want to see carefully constructed projects and human-written articles about them are refusing to face the world, i.e. delusional.

"Find the joy in it" reduces the whole discussion to the question of self-imposed mindset, as if there is no possible rational reason to be unhappy about what's going on.

Re: Scoring Show HN submissions for AI design patterns

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Post by rglover »

fusslo wrote: post #105

off topic AI-related anecdote: at my workplace the phrase in status/report-out meetings "I built" now means "I asked claude to build" All of a sudden managers, architects (who haven't written code in a decade), and directors are all building tools so now we're debugging the tools "they built" and why our product isn't working with them.

That sounds maddening.

Re: Scoring Show HN submissions for AI design patterns

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Post by bluefirebrand »

maplethorpe wrote: post #140
simonw wrote: post #8

I expect most side-projects are being built with AI-assistance now. Side projects are typically time constrained - if AI saves you time, why wouldn't you use it? They're also the ideal place to try out new AI tools that your professional work might not let you experiment with. (The headline of this piece doesn't really do it justice - it misuses "vibe coded" and fails to communicate that the substance of the post is…

> Side projects are typically time constrained - if AI saves you time, why wouldn't you use it? It depends what your goals are. All of my side projects were started because I wanted to learn something. Using a "skip to the end" button wouldn't really make sense for me.

The difference between people who want to learn things versus people who just want a finished product is going to be a big dividing line in the post AI world

Re: Scoring Show HN submissions for AI design patterns

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Post by swat535 »

nottorp wrote: post #67

If we speak of design, most tech project sites, from "solo founder SAAS" to "we got 2 billion from YC" have looked the same to me for years. We can hope the LLMs hallucinate slightly different CSS once in a while now...

Yea, I mean we've had so many phases.. Bootstrap, Web 2.0, Tailwind, "Material" UI, etc.. with random frameworks, from Rails to NextJS..

There's always a trend and everyone follows them in Software. Now it's AI.. let's not pretend cutting corners is anything new in our industry.

I guess you can always gloat about your artisan code but people who use Software for business never cared about that to begin with.

Plus, wasn't the entire philosophy of CS was that "everyone can code" ? Opposing licensing requirements, etc ? Well.. there you have it, code is a commodity now and the barrier to entry is next to none.

Re: Scoring Show HN submissions for AI design patterns

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Post by ValentineC »

bobthepanda wrote: post #22

Shad/cn is a Vercel shipped batteries included framework similar to Bootstrap in the jQuery days. I don’t think that by itself is going to be a good validation of AI slop because it’s a common stack with the Vercel next.js base. And it lets you do a lot of customization so you don’t need to reinvent the wheels on things like accordions and dropdowns.

> Shad/cn is a Vercel shipped batteries included framework similar to Bootstrap in the jQuery days.

Shadcn works for Vercel, but is actually a human being (I think?).

The UI framework is called shadcn/ui.

Re: Scoring Show HN submissions for AI design patterns

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Post by rglover »

doug_durham wrote: post #39
mccoyb wrote: post #23

The problem is not vibe coding itself. The problem is that certain untrained people do not have or perhaps do not care to learn the necessary skills to refine the result into something novel, or clear / precise, something which communicates (clearly) the idea they are trying to convey to others (who are hoping to learn something new). In a climate where it seems like VC are woefully bereft of the same skills, there's…

Why is that a problem? Reality will filter out the projects that are poorly developed just like it always has.

Sure, but what greatness do we lose in the interim as it gets silenced by unending noise?

Re: Scoring Show HN submissions for AI design patterns

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Post by JohnFen »

simonw wrote: post #8

I expect most side-projects are being built with AI-assistance now. Side projects are typically time constrained - if AI saves you time, why wouldn't you use it? They're also the ideal place to try out new AI tools that your professional work might not let you experiment with. (The headline of this piece doesn't really do it justice - it misuses "vibe coded" and fails to communicate that the substance of the post is…

> if AI saves you time, why wouldn't you use it?

I wouldn't use it because one of the reasons that I do side projects is to enjoy myself and learn new things, and these tools tend to do much of the stuff that I enjoy and learn from.

Re: Scoring Show HN submissions for AI design patterns

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Post by fenykep »

sowbug wrote: post #136
vunderba wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My biggest issue with LLM‑assisted webpages (Claude Code is especially egregious) is the lack of respect for basic web content accessibility guidelines. The number of dark‑mode sites I’ve seen where the text (and subtext) are various shades of dark brown or beige is just awful. For reference, you want a contrast ratio between the text and background of at least ~4:1 to be on the safe side. This isn't even that hard t…

Were/Are human-generated side projects better in this respect?

I assume not, but the emphasis here is that a new tool is homogenizing these projects and due to its scale it is more important that this homogenous output is up to a higher standard.

A hundred self-thought devs not implementing accessibility standards is a different problem than a school teaching 100 students lacking these standards in its curriculum.

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