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Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?

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Re: Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?

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post #46

I think it's just because the Japanese are really obsessed with cleanliness and others are not.

Yeah I don't think so, buddy. I won't be shooting a stream of water onto my asshole that originates from a nozzle that spends 24x7 inside a toilet. Who the hell knows who pissed, shit or bled onto that nozzle before it's spraying its bacterial frappe up my poopshoot? No thank you.

Re: Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?

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Every one of these articles gets the pitch of these toilets completely wrong - for every person, and in every scenario, these are not universally better. Consider the following experiment: Smear some mud on your arm. Now, using a jet stream the power of a squirt gun and very low precision, wash it all off in 10 seconds. Not so easy. Then - imagine if you put mud on a place with hair! Not only will it not be clean wit…

Sounds like your hairy ass is the real problem. Ever considered trimming down there? Dry paper might afford you the illusion of cleanliness, but I guarantee you your bum remains dirty without a thorough washing.

Re: Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?

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post #237

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I guess this doesn't extend to oral hygiene?

Japanese oral hygiene is fine. It's cosmetic dentistry, braces etc that they don't really get.

Uh, no it isn't. Every, and I mean EVERY train ride I take from Chiba to Tokyo is a mixture of fish-and-garlic-for-breakfast and cigarette breath.

If only what you said were true.

Re: Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?

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Try using a toilet in Germany. Without being too crass, you deposit your excrement onto a dry shelf, whereupon it may be inspected, or not, and then a rush of water slides it off the shelf to its destination.

I never understood the point of those things...

Re: Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?

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Flushable wet wipes changed my bathroom life. I now don't even consider doing my business without them. Way cheaper than installing a bidet, and I would argue it's more effective, too.

A bidet attachment is less than $50. It's also a one-time cost. Having to purchase wet wipes will eventually cost you more. Also, you're still just smearing poop allover your bum with a wipe. The bidet's jet of water effectively blasts your area clean. Think about it like this: if you cook a spaghetti dinner with meatballs and tomato sauce, would you wet wipe the plates and put them back in the cupboard? Of course not, you'd give the dishes a proper rinsing under a stream of water. I will never understand the aversion to bidets. Anything less is uncivilized, and quite frankly, disgusting.

Re: Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?

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post #239

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I wouldn't want a car like contraption, it's just massive overkill for something that humans have turned into a big deal. People seemed to manage for hundreds of centuries just fine without motorized horses. Utterly ridiculous and a good example of the first world having gone crazy. These are just extortion, taking advantage of a cultural "issue" in a first world country like America. I can't believe hn are even disc…

motorized transportation is clearly an advantage, having water squirted up your arse is, at best fetishistic, and at worst just a total waste of time/electricity. If you can't see the difference then go right ahead and keep discussing this nonsense. Funny how the rest of the animal kingdom seems to have managed. Funny how nobody but the Japanese want these? Ever ask why the same nation that needs soiled panty dispens…

You obviously have no experience with the devices in question, and your generalisations about other cultures are ignorant, at best.

Cleaning yourself with water, whether it be your hands or your butt, is not a "fetish" and I cannot comprehend why you would try to paint it as such. Why are you so scared of the idea that you'll go to the extreme of trying to dismiss it as sexual deviancy? Your argument says a lot more about you than it does about the topic at hand.

And for your information, used pantie vending machines in Japan is basically an urban myth. There may be some in fetishist sex shops, I'm not sure. I'm sure you can buy used panties in American fetish sex shops, too.

Re: Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?

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post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't want a car like contraption, it's just massive overkill for something that humans have turned into a big deal. People seemed to manage for hundreds of centuries just fine without motorized horses. Utterly ridiculous and a good example of the first world having gone crazy. These are just extortion, taking advantage of a cultural "issue" in a first world country like America. I can't believe hn are even disc…

motorized transportation is clearly an advantage, having water squirted up your arse is, at best fetishistic, and at worst just a total waste of time/electricity. If you can't see the difference then go right ahead and keep discussing this nonsense. Funny how the rest of the animal kingdom seems to have managed. Funny how nobody but the Japanese want these? Ever ask why the same nation that needs soiled panty dispens…

Actually South Asian toilets have water cleaning as well. For the squatting ones, which are becoming less and less common, people use mugs - for western toilets, there is a flexible faucet that you can use to spray. So no. This is not a fetish. At least not one that is restricted to just Japan.

Re: Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?

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post #156

It sounds like way too hi-tech. I guess people around the world are pretty much happy to get the job done one way or another. I know that there are people who wipe and people who wash. Then some others who do things I probably don't know how to imagine. If you're not keen on using a piece of paper to smudge your shit into your anus more permanently than necessary, then there are always bidet showers (without the bide…

indeed the 'showers' separate handle beside the toilet, or the cheaper seat based options are very popular among Muslims in general as using water for cleaning after bathroom is seen as a religious requirement.

ex from amazon: http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=muslim+shower&...

Re: Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?

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post #25
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to the article, there are devices that could be attached to existing toilet seats that cost 100$ or less. If they do work well (article claims that they have good reviews), then cost is not an issue.

If you read the full article, only the cheapo, probably ineffective solutions cost $100, you're looking more at $500 and up for a good unit. And if you want a warmer, you'll need a GFCI outlet installed next to the toilet, which most US homes do not have. You'll want a warmer in many areas of the US during the winter. So you're looking at quite a bit of cash there. Edit: Please read what I wrote. I'm not saying most…

I have the cheaper, no-electricity model ($35 on Amazon) pictured in the article:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001KKRCFA

It gets the job done just fine — I’ve never felt the need for heated water or a blow drier. The head is spring-loaded and retracts when water pressure isn’t being applied. Happy to answer questions if, er, anyone’s curious.

Interestingly enough, they offered to ship me a second one if I wrote a review, any review, on Amazon (I did). I’m guessing they’re trying to raise awareness of these things.

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