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Re: Another Day Has Come

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Post by simonw »

stetrain wrote: post #7
dsign wrote: post #5

I was thinking about the upcoming regulation about replaceable batteries in the EU, and couldn't help but think that if I were Apple's CEO this would be a great time to make an orderly exit. Make no mistake, I'm not a fan of i-Devices' non-replaceable batteries, but I can't remember a single device with a lid for batteries on the back that was aesthetically in the same league as an iPhone.

As far as I know it should be pretty easy for Apple to comply with the regulation. The battery needs to be replaceable with standard or freely available tools and without adhesives. Many of Apple’s devices already meet this standard. Edit: I'm not sure on the adhesives part. Apple uses an electrically-releasable adhesive in some of their newer products. The MacBook Neo doesn't use battery adhesive at all. There are c…

I don't think any of the iPhone or iPads do. Their design is pretty tightly coupled to weird shaped, permanently attached batteries, from what I've heard.

Re: Another Day Has Come

#42

Post by dreamcompiler »

throwanem wrote: post #16

Until now Apple hasn't addressed the mass market in nearly two decades. That's one human generation, and it is also the span of time between when something first hits and when it sees its first retro revival. That isn't a coincidence. I'm starting to get a little excited! This is going to be quite a decade.

They're now building the best cheap laptop ever made. That feels mass market to me.

Re: Another Day Has Come

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Post by simonw »

_d3p9 wrote: post #38
jmull wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The comment asks what’s the grift? How is he irrelevant? You ignore the questions and respond with ad hominem attacks. Obviously, you’ve got a beef with Gruber. That’s fine. But you’re acquitting yourself well here (and make us suspect that whatever happened between you and Gruber, you might have had a significant hand in it).

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How does he get paid by Apple?

I thought he earned his living from $11,000/week blog sponsors and whatever he earns from the podcast.

If Apple are paying him to cover them then yes, that's a grift. Is that happening?

(I know they send him review hardware because he discloses that in his posts.)

Re: Another Day Has Come

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Post by simonw »

_d3p9 wrote: post #20
simonw wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the grift? By "rebuke" do you mean the thing where they didn't send any of their execs to be a guest on his WWDC podcast episode, presumably in retribution for his "Something Is Rotten in the State of Cupertino" post? I don't see how that makes him irrelevant - I think it strengthens his credibility as someone willing to hold Apple accountable when he disagrees with their direction.

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Why should my opinion of how credible he is as a writer about Apple be affected by people who work at Apple not liking him?

Re: Another Day Has Come

#45

Post by otterley »

blackguardx wrote: post #17
dsign wrote: post #5

I was thinking about the upcoming regulation about replaceable batteries in the EU, and couldn't help but think that if I were Apple's CEO this would be a great time to make an orderly exit. Make no mistake, I'm not a fan of i-Devices' non-replaceable batteries, but I can't remember a single device with a lid for batteries on the back that was aesthetically in the same league as an iPhone.

The iPhone 4 was easily disassembled with screwdrivers...

The iPhone 4 was not water resistant. I remember owning one and being absolutely freaked out about it getting wet. Talk about an expensive paperweight.

Re: Another Day Has Come

#46

Post by otterley »

stetrain wrote: post #7
dsign wrote: post #5

I was thinking about the upcoming regulation about replaceable batteries in the EU, and couldn't help but think that if I were Apple's CEO this would be a great time to make an orderly exit. Make no mistake, I'm not a fan of i-Devices' non-replaceable batteries, but I can't remember a single device with a lid for batteries on the back that was aesthetically in the same league as an iPhone.

As far as I know it should be pretty easy for Apple to comply with the regulation. The battery needs to be replaceable with standard or freely available tools and without adhesives. Many of Apple’s devices already meet this standard. Edit: I'm not sure on the adhesives part. Apple uses an electrically-releasable adhesive in some of their newer products. The MacBook Neo doesn't use battery adhesive at all. There are c…

And what, exactly, is your knowledge based on? I take it you've designed and shipped a working phone that meets IP68 standards for water intrusion?

Re: Another Day Has Come

#48

Post by stetrain »

otterley wrote: post #46
stetrain wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as I know it should be pretty easy for Apple to comply with the regulation. The battery needs to be replaceable with standard or freely available tools and without adhesives. Many of Apple’s devices already meet this standard. Edit: I'm not sure on the adhesives part. Apple uses an electrically-releasable adhesive in some of their newer products. The MacBook Neo doesn't use battery adhesive at all. There are c…

And what, exactly, is your knowledge based on? I take it you've designed and shipped a working phone that meets IP68 standards for water intrusion?

Reading some articles about the EU law, which is more complicated than the seemingly popular interpretation that all phones are now going to have tool-free battery doors on the back like it's 2005 again.

Re: Another Day Has Come

#49

Post by stetrain »

simonw wrote: post #41
stetrain wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as I know it should be pretty easy for Apple to comply with the regulation. The battery needs to be replaceable with standard or freely available tools and without adhesives. Many of Apple’s devices already meet this standard. Edit: I'm not sure on the adhesives part. Apple uses an electrically-releasable adhesive in some of their newer products. The MacBook Neo doesn't use battery adhesive at all. There are c…

I don't think any of the iPhone or iPads do. Their design is pretty tightly coupled to weird shaped, permanently attached batteries, from what I've heard.

I don't know whether the newer electrically-releasing battery adhesives would count, but they do allow cleanly removing and replacing the battery without proprietary tools.

Re: Another Day Has Come

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Post by _d3p9 »

simonw wrote: post #43
_d3p9 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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How does he get paid by Apple? I thought he earned his living from $11,000/week blog sponsors and whatever he earns from the podcast. If Apple are paying him to cover them then yes, that's a grift. Is that happening? (I know they send him review hardware because he discloses that in his posts.)

As I said, this is not something I will discuss publicly. But what I can say is that Apple wouldn't be the first tech company to pay for certain stories to be written, as I'm sure you're aware. There was a time when Apple needed John (along with his apparent "unbiased" takes). John's blog was critical for a period of time.
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