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Original GrapheneOS responses to WIRED fact checker

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Re: Original GrapheneOS responses to WIRED fact checker

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The fact that graphane is getting attacked speaks enough for it's relability. First in france now in Wired. I'm more concerned that Signal incorporated in US is having easy life.

Being attacked? That doesn't mean anything. Either you know the security domains in and out or you can't make an educated guess how secure it really is.

Re: Original GrapheneOS responses to WIRED fact checker

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Personally, I like that they come across as a little paranoid. That's exactly the attitude I want in the people protecting my privacy and security. I hope the developers lie awake at night, unable to fall asleep because terrified that someone somewhere is plotting to attack and exploit them

While I understand you are trying to be positive about this, I don't think it's good to want our team portrayed like this, sorry. Paranoid people are people who'd easily be influenced into doing harmful behaviors because it believes it will stop their problems. Making a response to inaccuracies and bad journalism platforming an extremely malicious actor isn't a symptom of that. We don't have people with severe mental…

There is a very broad spectrum between "completely average and neurotypical" and "severe mental illness". E.g. "slightly atypical personality". The world would be a boring place if everyone was exactly the same

Re: Original GrapheneOS responses to WIRED fact checker

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Being "right" shouldn't excuse bad behavior, especially if you depend entirely on a community to survive, which we all do.

Why the scare quotes? Being right is the literal opposite of bad behavior.

If you have zero consideration for other people, sure.

"I can't believe you wrote this terrible code. You clearly don’t understand how concurrency works. Do it again."

Technically right, but when you run out of people who actually want to work with you, you'll be writing the code yourself.

Re: Original GrapheneOS responses to WIRED fact checker

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All of the defensiveness is warranted. They speak neutrally and objectively. The project is not going to relinquish control to any 3rd party. Not even the Motorola partnership is given control over the GOS project. The hypothetical you describe is not possible by design. The GOS project takes no issue with critical thinking, and encourages it. But that is often used as an excuse to handwave attacks. There is a very b…

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Calyx Institute and GrapheneOS are both really great projects. I support them both. I rely on products from both.

You're not doing either project any favors by pretending that hastily generalizing nerd dramas and autism over-corrections is somehow a broad statement on the neutrality and objectivity of GrapheneOS's team or the high-quality product it produces.

This kind of bad faith posting is bad for the whole FOSS/libre community, and it's both dumb and rude, in contradiction of HN's site guidelines.

Re: Original GrapheneOS responses to WIRED fact checker

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post #64

I love GrapheneOS and I use it daily for more than 2 years. However, and as Louis Rossmann pointed out in one of his videos, they really need to work on the "defensiveness" and "rants" of their communication. Even when they are 99% right most of the time, they sometimes don't come as mature and professional.

Being "right" shouldn't excuse bad behavior, especially if you depend entirely on a community to survive, which we all do.

Which "bad behavior" are you talking about?

Re: Original GrapheneOS responses to WIRED fact checker

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post #82

The fact that graphane is getting attacked speaks enough for it's relability. First in france now in Wired. I'm more concerned that Signal incorporated in US is having easy life.

Nah, that's more to do with the fact that governments use Signal and Meredith Whittaker is not to be trifled with.

Re: Original GrapheneOS responses to WIRED fact checker

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Rossmann publicly blasted a private discussion, twisting what was going on, and then lied to his own viewers. Such a claim from an identity verified kiwifarms account holder holds no weight.

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Re: Original GrapheneOS responses to WIRED fact checker

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I'm sure it's exhausting producing an awesome product, only to get crapped on by governments and corporations that hate privacy and drama-farming Twitter randos, but debunking bad-faith bullshit is nothing if not rational in a world where reputation matters.
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