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FBI looks into dead or missing scientists tied to NASA, Blue Origin, SpaceX

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Turns out scientists die too?

> the concentration of deaths and disappearances within such a small, specialized field as defying ordinary probability. The best conspiracy theory I've seen online is that top-secret energy/weapons plans were sold by a traitor, and these scientists were kidnapped to be the worker bees. Terribly dark and implausible, but also, we are living through a storyline that writers wouldn't even consider a draft because it's…

Specialized fields such as property custodians, administrative employees and managers

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I don't have the link but someone estimated the number of scientists working in the defense field (it's a lot) and the number of deaths per year you'd expect (over 100). There's probably nothing here. It probably doesn't hurt to have the FBI take a second look at any death of somebody who has a security clearance or is working on export-controlled tech, but OTOH that might be a lot of work.

Steven Novella did one[0] - "Well, there are about 2 million researchers in the US. There are about 25 deaths per million people per day in the US, that’s 50 scientists dying each day, or 73,000 scientists over a four year period. Finding 11 that have some vague connection does not seem unusual to me."

He goes into greater detail further down to assuage the "BUT BUT that's genpop not JPL!" whatabouters and does some "how TF are these people connected?" musing.

[0] https://theness.com/neurologicablog/whats-with-the-dead-or-m...

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One more addition to the conspiracy theories: The frequency of fireballs in our planet’s skies seemed to grow in recent months. NASA and other meteor experts can’t agree on what explains it. ... In response to growing public interest, a NASA public affairs official said in a blog post at the end of March, “While it may seem like meteor reports and sightings have been more frequent recently, it is not out of the ordin…

> The frequency of fireballs in our planet’s skies seemed to grow in recent months.

It feels reductive to point out that this has coincided with a massive increase in the number of small satellites with limited lifespans up there.

(And yes, you'd expect NASA and the AMS to have thought of that but I honestly wouldn't put it past them to be deliberately ignoring Starlink satellites given Musk's political power and petulance to people who cross him.)

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Now that's a fun one, where did you hear that from? Other ones I've seen include; tit for tat revenge for the assassination of Iranian nuke scientists; a global conspiracy of illuminati/masons/"jews" (defined so broadly as to be useless); chinese interdiction (kidnapping, a-la the reverse of the subplot in nolan's the dark knight film - that is essentially what you said); bankers who own everything and subvert everyt…

Struggling to tell if you’re trolling, or just often on a good one at this hour, based on your other comments. Anyway, did you fix the hiccups?

Theres a lot of awesome fixes to hiccups that actually work if you do them right. One thing I've learned over the years is that most problems have an obvious fix that some people figured out ages ago and the reason you're late to the party of knowing is that after everyone else figured it out they decided not to tell you because then they could make a buck off of selling you the solution. Applies to so many things in our world.

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A good rule of thumb is that whatever James Comer believes, believing the opposite is correct 99% of the time.

The man is, for want of a better word, a full-on Republican dipshit performing dipshittery in an attempt to get Trump to notice him.

(His wikipedia page is an excellent summary of his asshattery.)

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Speaking in layman's terms, it's fancy remote microwaving.

No, it's not. There was one hasty study that claimed that early on, riddled with issues, and unable to be replicated. The symptoms are not RF burns.

Source? It is known (and studied) that even at low power levels that do not significantly raise body temperature, short RF pulses can cause rapid, microscopic thermal expansion in the brain. This creates mechanical stress waves that can lead to TBIs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_auditory_effect

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Awww your data drops off at 2023. You’re so smart.

> CRS calculated that President Trump's budget proposal for FY2026 included approximately $181.4 billion for R&D, $10.7 billion (-6%) below the FY2025 estimated level of $192.2 billion. The requested $181.4 billion, which included advance and supplemental appropriations, was to support federal investments in the conduct of R&D as well as R&D-related physical assets (such as the construction of R&D facilities or equipment).

181 billion! How will we prosper as a nation if we go back to 2021 spending levels??

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This appears to be for investigating how many scientist have left the US sponsored by state powers. But this also seems like bad communication on the FBI and perhaps poor publishing. I think there is some confusion that there are more people going missing and dying in the sector while not outlining that there are more people going missing AND dying. Or I'm just completely wrong, the only reason why I am making such a…

It's hard to believe that this administration would suddenly care about brain drain, after decimating all academic grants and generally exhibiting anti-intellectual behavior.

True. It seems more likely they're using this to drum up fear of tHe eNEmY to manufacture consent for more conflict.

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I'm surprised this article is gaining traction on HN when it's propping up such obvious conspiratorial drivel. For a counterpoint I would recommend this article [1], but I'll summarize the main points here: - The investigation concerns somewhere between four and a dozen people spanning nearly half a decade. A dozen people dying or disappearing over the course of 4 years is hardly the statistical anomaly the articles…

Came here to post this if it wasn't here already.

I'll point out, though, that it's still only April. Plenty of time for even dumber conspiracy theories to take hold!

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