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Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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Post by Stevvo »

uxcolumbo wrote: post #710
Stevvo wrote: post #619

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Until yesterday I would have recommended VSCode + Copilot. They had the best pricing of any option. However the pricing was unsustainable and is therefor finished.

I was planning to sign up to Copilot, since their pricing was per request not per token. Has that changed now?

Opus 4.5 and 4.6 removed from all plans. 4.7 locked to medium reasoning with 7.5x request multiplier. Per token pricing starting next month.

But you can't actually sign up to Pro or Pro+; they disabled sign ups until the per token pricing starts.

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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Post by Stevvo »

Sammi wrote: post #704
Stevvo wrote: post #619

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Until yesterday I would have recommended VSCode + Copilot. They had the best pricing of any option. However the pricing was unsustainable and is therefor finished.

How's the ai autocomplete? It was unusable in November when I tried it last and went back to Cursor. Slow and when it finally did something it was just not good. Cursor is super fast and actually gives useful results. I just don't want to give my money to Elon, so I might cancel anyways.

Honestly couldn't tell you anymore; a year ago I was using AI autocomplete, but today AI is writing all code for me.

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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Post by petesergeant »

ETH_start wrote: post #604
c-linkage wrote: post #510

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He probably had plans to use it for some sort of Ender's Game crap but then realized that grok wasn't smart enough to do it.

It's extremely unlikely Musk was personally involved in any way in the decision on the username.

In a normal business? Sure. When it comes to Musk and Twitter? Less sure.

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Post by diordiderot »

zuzululu wrote: post #477
plombe wrote: post #429

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Wasn’t composer trained on Kimi? Has anyone had a chance to compare the latest Kimi model to composer?

I'm going to be brutally honest but I have not found Kimi to be useful at all. It simply cannot compete with what closed models from Codex and Claude offers. I don't want to risk using a model outside the ecosystem and introduce variables as most of my workflow is baked into two to three large company models.

Kimi is my favorite of the Chinese models.

I found it much more consistent than glm or minimax

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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Post by elAhmo »

rob74 wrote: post #583
Lonestar1440 wrote: post #195

So SpaceX bought a $60B Option on Cursor, plus a bunch of services, for $10B. If strike date comes and Cursor is in fact worth less than $60B... they can move to acquire it for that price. Or just let it "expire". And if it's worth more, they get a savage good deal. If the services were worth $8B anyway, it's hard to lose. It seems less crazy to me through this lens. A straight acquisition, today, at $60B would in fa…

What's crazy is that a company that sells an IDE (that's not even a particularly good one compared to competitors like JetBrains) integrating some AI plugins could be worth more than $60B...

> that's not even a particularly good one compared to competitors like JetBrains

Massive understatement calling it "a not particularly good plugin". If it were that simple there wouldn't be a need to even do this.

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Post by KaiserPro »

sigmoid10 wrote: post #630
ozim wrote: post #610

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In terms of IDE yeah it is not that great. I do have Copilot in VSCode and Cursor. I thought both should be equal in solving problems - turns out Cursor with the same model selected somehow was able to solve tasks that Copilot would get stuck or run in loops. They have some tricks on managing file access that others don’t.

Cynics on HN easily dismiss AI service wrappers (and many of them are in fact overblown and not worth their own code). But writing a genuinely good harness with lots of context engineering and solid tool integration is in fact not that easy. The biggest issue is that model providers also see what the community likes and often move on with their own offerings that are tailored to their own models, potentially at the t…

> But writing a genuinely good harness with lots of context engineering and solid tool integration is in fact not that easy.

true, but its not worth $60 billion fucking quid.

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Post by mzl »

plombe wrote: post #429
anonymid wrote: post #153

I guess the hope is that combining two sub-par coding models (xAI's grok + cursor's composer) and combining the data they have access to, they can build something that can compete with OpenAI / Anthropic in the coding space... I guess I kinda see it... it makes sense from both points of view (xAI needs data + places to run their models, cursor needs to not be reliant on Anthropic/OpenAI). I think I don't see it worki…

Wasn’t composer trained on Kimi? Has anyone had a chance to compare the latest Kimi model to composer?

Composer-2 is based on Kimi K2.5, but with extensive RL. Cursor estimated 3x more compute on their RL than the original K2.5 training run (some details in https://cursor.com/blog/composer-2-technical-report).

Composer-2 seems very useful in Cursor, while K2.6 according to AA seems to be a really useful general model: https://artificialanalysis.ai/articles/kimi-k2-6-the-new-lea...

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Post by mzl »

zuzululu wrote: post #477
plombe wrote: post #429

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wasn’t composer trained on Kimi? Has anyone had a chance to compare the latest Kimi model to composer?

I'm going to be brutally honest but I have not found Kimi to be useful at all. It simply cannot compete with what closed models from Codex and Claude offers. I don't want to risk using a model outside the ecosystem and introduce variables as most of my workflow is baked into two to three large company models.

Which version of Kimi and served from where?

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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Post by freehorse »

alvis wrote: post #680
dubeye wrote: post #674

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Because of user count? Same was said about instagram. with all due respect, devs don't seem to understand business

Who are the users? I haven't seen many pro users using cursor

Companies. Single devs can jump around IDEs and TUIs more easily but that’s not what companies tend to do.
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