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FBI looks into dead or missing scientists tied to NASA, Blue Origin, SpaceX

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#32

A lot of people are saying it’s disconnected, but even if it was, if a string of your country’s top rocket experts started disappearing, you wouldn’t just sit idly by

Could be nothing, or could be a new Havana Syndrome: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Havana_syndrome

What's sad is, 5-10 years ago, no adversary would think simply off-ing American scientists was effective strategy, America was a new scientist generation machine.

Now thanks to Research funding falling off a cliff and massive immigration restrictions, this is no longer true.

Re: FBI looks into dead or missing scientists tied to NASA, Blue Origin, SpaceX

#33

A lot of people are saying it’s disconnected, but even if it was, if a string of your country’s top rocket experts started disappearing, you wouldn’t just sit idly by

"Let's stop with the accusations. It was an old cat. He just happen to fall down while we were shooting." -- Adams aebler

Re: FBI looks into dead or missing scientists tied to NASA, Blue Origin, SpaceX

#34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True. Whether or not it's coincidental they have to look into it.

Unfortunately the people 'looking into it' have currently demonstrated that they are incapable of looking into anything in good faith.

You think the FBI won't investigate in good faith?

Re: FBI looks into dead or missing scientists tied to NASA, Blue Origin, SpaceX

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post #32

A lot of people are saying it’s disconnected, but even if it was, if a string of your country’s top rocket experts started disappearing, you wouldn’t just sit idly by

Could be nothing, or could be a new Havana Syndrome: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Havana_syndrome What's sad is, 5-10 years ago, no adversary would think simply off-ing American scientists was effective strategy, America was a new scientist generation machine . Now thanks to Research funding falling off a cliff and massive immigration restrictions, this is no longer true.

they probably torture them for secrets and kill them

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Turns out scientists die too?

> the concentration of deaths and disappearances within such a small, specialized field as defying ordinary probability. The best conspiracy theory I've seen online is that top-secret energy/weapons plans were sold by a traitor, and these scientists were kidnapped to be the worker bees. Terribly dark and implausible, but also, we are living through a storyline that writers wouldn't even consider a draft because it's…

I imagine it is difficult to get good work out of scientists at the point of a gun. With physical labour you can tell if someone is doing a good job, but with intellectual labour its much harder to tell if someone is intentionally being slow or if its a hard problem that is difficult to solve.

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The article doesn't seem to reveal the source of its information about these alleged disappearances. Is it the letters from the members of Congress? Also, what interest would a foreign power have in planetary defense against asteroids? Is there some dual-use technology in that?

Intercepting a meteor falling to Earth may be not too unlike intercepting a ballistic missile in its terminal descent from high altitude.

Re: FBI looks into dead or missing scientists tied to NASA, Blue Origin, SpaceX

#38
I'm sure there's something behind deaths and disappearences of key rocket, defense, and nuclear scientists in Iran. Has been going on for a while.

For the US, my money is on "more evidence is needed". I could imagine the more "diverse" among the scientists deciding it's time for a career/employer change over the past year or so, though.

Re: FBI looks into dead or missing scientists tied to NASA, Blue Origin, SpaceX

#39

Once I saw “James Comer” I knew I could ignore this.

Yeah. Even without that it feels like one of those things where people see something that looks fishy, but given the large number of potential people involved, it's not actually weird at all.

But Comer... oof, it's hard to take seriously anything he focuses on.

But who knows? Broken clocks, twice a day, etc.

Re: FBI looks into dead or missing scientists tied to NASA, Blue Origin, SpaceX

#40

A lot of people are saying it’s disconnected, but even if it was, if a string of your country’s top rocket experts started disappearing, you wouldn’t just sit idly by

it does not pass the smell test, because what's the purpose of communicating about this FBI ongoing investigation ? at best it won't harm the investigation. it's probably propaganda
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