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SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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Guess I'll be looking for a replacement for Cursor now... Anyone have recommendations? I like the plan/agent mode and the fact that it's an IDE, so I can use it in the traditional way as well as by yapping with a bunch of agents. Also the Cursor rules I've curated and they do their job well.

any IDE you like and Claude code - i have no idea why you'd want to use something like Cursor, it's time came and went.

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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I really don't think Cursor is going to be acquired for $60 billion. That price is absolutely absurd. I agree their harness is excellent, but it's hard to argue they have an overwhelming competitive advantage over rivals like Claude Code and Codex, or open-source alternatives like OpenCode. What's left then is Cursor's data, talent, and user base — but even accounting for all of that, the price is still ridiculous.

I've personally watched a lot of developers around me (myself included) who were enthusiastic Cursor users when it first launched gradually migrate over to Claude Code and Codex. And I don't think this is just happening in my bubble.

My guess is this is some kind of strategic play ahead of SpaceX's upcoming IPO — an attempt to get a higher valuation stamped on the company. But I'll say it again: $60 billion is absolutely absurd.

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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It is adversely selected, but it's not debt, it's equity, so price action can go real fast and nobody will be burned except folks who soberly-or-not opted into this. Everyone _knows_ Elon is the way he is, so nobody will be _surprised_ at things. No surprise, no crisis.

They're going to force a S&P500 index listing on IPO day so we're all going to be forced to baghold this regardless of if we want to or not unless you've got $0 in any major retirement fund.

401k rollovers into IRA aren't that hard these days and you could always use that IRA to have a more customized strategy, more specifically direct indexing of a major fund minus key ticker symbols you don't want exposure to. Of course, that all presumes that you won't regret excluding this long term.

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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They had like $16B in revenue last year, half from Starlink. That’s just money in the door and the underwriters seem to think the business is worth $1.75T.

If underwriters think it’s worth $1.7T with a $16B revenue (not profit), they’re doing the same thing as the credit agencies did in 2008 by giving underwater mortgage backed securities a AAA rating.

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Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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I doubt they're buying it for Composer, I imagine they're buying it for the agent harness. It's arguably the best non-Anthropic agentic coding harness, and you get _all the models_ for one subscription price.

Maybe vertical integration is the main business case. A controlled environment to determine effort and token usage, and to get plenty of exclusive training on code. It could end up making sense. Idk if they needed to offer 60B though.

I'm not willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. I think this is purely Elon trying to take a pot shot at Anthropic.

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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I am so actually beyond sad that I ever trusted Musk, all the signs were there, from the lies with Tesla to the nonesensical point to point "tourist" lies, to the Mars lies, to the fact that the spaceship they are developing right now requires an actual elevator to get astronauts down, it was never meant for humans, it was meant to deploy sats in space even cheaper, outcompete the competition and basically kill human…

The elevator was there when it was originally announced.

There's no Kessler Syndrome where Starlink is.

You'd know this if you read Kessler's first paper. It's online.

i.e if every single Starlink satellite crashes into another you won't get Kessler Syndrome.

And the same it true for the planned Kuiper.

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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Point to any government subsidies for SpaceX - or do you think your salary is a subsidy and everything you do at work is worthless to your employer? SpaceX has paid for contracts to deliver services to the government and those services have saved the government billions of dollars compared to the alternative.

You're claiming that SpaceX has not received governmnent subsidies, grants, and contracts? > those services have saved the government billions of dollars compared to the alternative Source? All I can find is some guy saying it. And it doesn't really matter what they've saved. It doesn't excuse conflicts of interest.

A top government employee in the previous regime. Not some guy. You yourself can check and see that launch pricing for the government is cheaper from everyone apart from Boeing these days.

Turns out capping costs help. (See SLS) (See Europa Clipper)

Contracts aren't subsidies and you know that. It's straight up dishonesty to mix them up.

McDonald's and Burger King are government contractors

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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JetBrains is crying in the corner...

I honestly can’t believe how poorly JetBrains has done. I used to love PyCharm but now it’s so far behind. I still use DataGrip but it is absolute dogshit when it comes to agentic coding.

Yeah, and it seems to be completely self-inflicted. I created a small personal skillset that explains to the agent how to use the JetBrains MCP tools for refactorings/find-usage/navigation, and it improved its performance by a lot.

Yet JetBrains tried to do everything themselves and failed :(

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