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Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by stellalo »

IgorPartola wrote: post #332

What a way to ruin goodwill with the very community they are trying to court. I am on a Pro subscription to use with Claude Code, but it sounds like the days of using it are numbered. I guess I will be trying the latest offering from OpenAI and Google tomorrow and if they are satisfactory I might just switch. Moreover, I have been recommending Anthropic's API solutions up to now to friends and clients. Based on this…

> I guess I will be trying the latest offering from OpenAI and Google tomorrow and if they are satisfactory I might just switch.

If Anthropic’s move is confirmed, my guess is other coding agents providers might end up making similar moves

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by naet »

maxall4 wrote: post #251
rideontime wrote: post #209

Anthropic’s “Head of Growth” claims this is a “test”: https://x.com/TheAmolAvasare/status/2046724659039932830 This does not explain the changes to documentation.

> on ~2% of new prosumer signups. I, and everyone else I have asked, see this new updated sales UI; sounds like more than 2%.

Yeah I flat out don't believe the 2% thing. It's possible that I was the 1 out of 50 who checked the page and saw that Claude code was removed... but it really seems like everyone I shared it with saw the same thing which is incredibly unlikely. Also I am an existing subscriber and checked the price page while logged in, so I shouldn't be counted in "2% of new subscribers" at all...

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by loloquwowndueo »

selcuka wrote: post #419
loloquwowndueo wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Back to coding by hand like our ancestors? Good for you! We should all do this, give them the finger.

Or you know, you can use a local model, or an open model with an independent provider.

Or, coding by hand :)

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by CuriouslyC »

trashface wrote: post #343
charliebwrites wrote: post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just checked. I continue to have Claude Code with my Pro plan This is concerning though. If I lose my current usage allotment at this price point I will likely switch to codex

That works until openai does the same thing. Pretty clear as an industry they want to establish a new price floor for non-trivial coding use.

Thank god for the Chinese labs. Keeping us (relatively) honest.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by esafak »

kobalsky wrote: post #350
IgorPartola wrote: post #332

What a way to ruin goodwill with the very community they are trying to court. I am on a Pro subscription to use with Claude Code, but it sounds like the days of using it are numbered. I guess I will be trying the latest offering from OpenAI and Google tomorrow and if they are satisfactory I might just switch. Moreover, I have been recommending Anthropic's API solutions up to now to friends and clients. Based on this…

> the very community they are trying to court After all, we may be a just a data source and not their intended demographic all along.

The valuation is obviously based on the premise of their capturing the white collar economy. OpenAI's charter says so openly. And Chinese robots will come for blue workers next.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by Aurornis »

nemomarx wrote: post #282
parineum wrote: post #276

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It is honestly truly fucking incredible how corps still find new, innovative ways to enshittify. Regular enshittification won't cut it, they have to exercise their artistic creativity. I had a bit of an epiphany the other day thinking about these VC companies offering products to the public at unsustainable prices. It's classic anticompetitive behavior. You imagine anticompetitive behavior to come from a monopoly b…

In physical markets we call this kinda thing dumping and it's often regulated. Maybe offering SaaS or compute at below profitable rates should be investigatable too, to avoid killing competitors too easily?

Dumping is typically used in the context of international trade.

There are some predatory pricing laws, but they're much more narrow than most people believe. There is no law requiring things to be sold for more than it costs to produce.

I think it's funny that these topics make people angry enough to demand that we make laws to force companies to raise prices. We'll stick it to these companies by forcing them to charge us more! That will show them!

Such laws would be very bad for startups and newcomers because they'd be forced to price their new product higher than established competitors who have economies of scale. It would be a nice handout to the big companies.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by Aurornis »

parineum wrote: post #298
nemomarx wrote: post #282

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In physical markets we call this kinda thing dumping and it's often regulated. Maybe offering SaaS or compute at below profitable rates should be investigatable too, to avoid killing competitors too easily?

Yeah, that's where the realization led me too. These companies probably need to be forced to at least try to price their products at a level that would be sustainable long term.

This happens naturally because no company can run at a loss forever.

I think it's funny that we're getting subsidized and discounted services and this makes some people so angry that the comment section is demanding laws that would force companies to charge us more.

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Post by freshfunk »

evmaki wrote: post #322

I would love someone to play devil's advocate against this perspective: While these tools stand to enable the democratization of productive capability in software engineering and other tasks (creating a renaissance for solopreneurs, let's say), what seems more likely to actually happen is that entrenched capital will become the only player with real access to this "knowledge as a utility" (was it Altman who called it…

In periods of massive inflation, only the most wealthy survive.

But there's competition out there -- the open-source chinese models. In their current form, I assume that will turn off many people but new models -- based on those -- are likely to appear. Also, OAI and Google will release new models and pick up the lost customers.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by freshfunk »

rob wrote: post #242

https://x.com/TheAmolAvasare/status/2046724846604963924 (Head of Growth @AnthropicAI) > When we launched Max a year ago, it didn't include Claude Code, Cowork didn't exist, and agents that run for hours weren't a thing. Max was designed for heavy chat usage, that's it. Is there a wager that this is 100% foreshadowing Claude Code will be removed from the $100-200/month Max plans soon and go to something like API-only?…

FWIW, I just heard this guy (Head of Growth) on Lenny's podcast a few days ago and one of the things he explicitly mentioned was creating intentional friction for growth. This seems to be one of those tests.
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