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Windows Server 2025 Runs Better on ARM

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Re: Windows Server 2025 Runs Better on ARM

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Cant believe somebody is still using windows server? What’s the use case?

I hope we migrate our stack to Linux soon, but I think that’ll take few years.

I know big company that run their core on Windows Server 2012, I’ve no idea how they manage the software assurance and compliance

Re: Windows Server 2025 Runs Better on ARM

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in no way that I can see is MSSQL or Server "legacy".

On the flip side, every single MSSQL instance that I've encountered has been legacy. For at least five years.

For mid sized businesses, where you're mostly just doing some business reporting, a single mssql instance makes for a great and very cheap 'data warehouse'. All the auth magically works for people to connect with Excel, and powerbi+cloud just works out of the box.

I'd be curious what a better/non-legacy solution is! (as I do this stuff haha, and don't see much else other than full cloud options, sf etc)

Re: Windows Server 2025 Runs Better on ARM

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in no way that I can see is MSSQL or Server "legacy".

It's "legacy" because it's essentially tied to Windows. Yes, technically it works on Linux, and no doubt that was an amazing feat, but no serious company is running MSSQL on Linux when all the documentation, all the best practices are all based on running that on Windows.

Why did they port it to Linux?

Knowing nothing about this, I wonder if they're getting ready to retire Windows Server, and wanted to get their server products off it?

Edit: How they did it is also quite fascinating:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/sql-server/blog/2016/12/16/s...

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/project/drawbridge/

>a key contribution of Drawbridge is a version of Windows that has been enlightened to run within a single Drawbridge picoprocess.

MSSQL on Linux only seems to use parts of that project (a smaller abstraction layer), but that's still super cool.

Re: Windows Server 2025 Runs Better on ARM

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Cant believe somebody is still using windows server? What’s the use case?

I hope we migrate our stack to Linux soon, but I think that’ll take few years. I know big company that run their core on Windows Server 2012, I’ve no idea how they manage the software assurance and compliance

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Re: Windows Server 2025 Runs Better on ARM

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Heh. State government is the only place I've encounter MSSQL in the past 10 years.

It's common as the backend to a lot of SMB scale ERP and CRM solutions. But almost all of those run on SQL Express.

Which can also run on Linux now.

Re: Windows Server 2025 Runs Better on ARM

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Cant believe somebody is still using windows server? What’s the use case?

Building Unreal games. Running windows containers.

Windows server is actually kind of awesome for when you need a Windows machine. Linux is great for servers but Windows server is the real Windows pro. Rock solid and none of the crap.

The worst part of Windows server is knowing that Microsoft can make a good operating system and chooses not to.

Re: Windows Server 2025 Runs Better on ARM

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As former Windows person who still uses fair amount of Powershell on Linux, I was interested. However, reading the summary left me confused like you don't understand what's happening at Microsoft. > Hopefully Microsoft will spend more time in the future on their server product strategy and less on Copilot ;-) The future product strategy is clear, it's Linux for servers. .Net runs on Linux, generally with much better…

Azure services run on [customized] Hyper-V, thus Windows Server.

Azure networking is Linux.

EDIT: Marvel at the NT4 style Task Manager [0].

[0] https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/windowsosplatform/a...

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in no way that I can see is MSSQL or Server "legacy".

The only people using MSSQL Server are people deep, deep in the Microsoft ecosystem. Think government work, and those unlucky enough to work at a pure Microsoft shop where every problem looks like a Microsoft or Azure solution. It's not a dominant database anywhere on the outside.

We're a B2B shop migrating to MSSQL, from SQL Anywhere. Managed MSSQL in Azure is fairly easy operationally, especially since we don't have a dedicated DBA and our support staff aren't SQL gurus.

However since we now got the tools for running on both, and experience migrating, we might be moving to PostgreSQL at some point in not too distant future. Managed MSSQL in Azure is not cheap.

Re: Windows Server 2025 Runs Better on ARM

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Cant believe somebody is still using windows server? What’s the use case?

I hope we migrate our stack to Linux soon, but I think that’ll take few years. I know big company that run their core on Windows Server 2012, I’ve no idea how they manage the software assurance and compliance

Actually Windows Server 2012 or just Windows Domain functional level? https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/identity/ad...
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