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SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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Oh yes, thanks for reminding me. I’m going to cash out the 401(k).

You’ll pay massive penalties on that, another option is options (heh) but I’m not finance-literate enough to know how to pull it off.

You can just reallocate away from an index fund.

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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Because Xurxor is free! If that's not a winning brand, I don't know what is.

Honestly, just shorten it to Xor. That's actually not half-bad dev branding.

I don’t know about you, but do you want Xenu and Zurvan’s love child in charge of your development?

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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Every time Musk does anything these days, it further reveals the shell game he's playing with his companies. This is going to be an Enron type of story eventually. I truly wish I had a choice to pull my tax money out of this particular subsidy.

Tesla is profitable, as a matter of public record. And SpaceX is, by all accounts, extremely profitable.

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Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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I was required to use Cursor for my job when I first started, but once I figured out how to use the command line version of Codex, I kind of stopped seeing the point. It just kind of seemed like a bloated, overpriced wrapper around what I could do with the included ChatGPT membership I already had for work. Maybe I was missing something, but I do not understand how it is worth sixty billion dollars.

It's not. It's a glorified code editor with no moat. Those are (massive) bubble prices.

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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Oh yes, thanks for reminding me. I’m going to cash out the 401(k).

You’ll pay massive penalties on that, another option is options (heh) but I’m not finance-literate enough to know how to pull it off.

Only penalties if you withdraw from 401k. Most 401k plans have some kind of moneymarket, bond fund, or similar

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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So SpaceX bought a $60B Option on Cursor, plus a bunch of services, for $10B. If strike date comes and Cursor is in fact worth less than $60B... they can move to acquire it for that price. Or just let it "expire". And if it's worth more, they get a savage good deal. If the services were worth $8B anyway, it's hard to lose. It seems less crazy to me through this lens. A straight acquisition, today, at $60B would in fa…

Despite their impressive ARR, Cursor faces existential threat from not only BigLabs (Claude Code, Open AI Codex) but also BigTech (AWS Kiro, Google Antigravity, MS VSCode). I am sure the usual suspects would have lined up to purchase Cursor, and the deal from xAI was probably the best of the lot. Marks an end to a remarkable sprint for a 3yo company, and an admirable exit (considering the recent discombobulation of Windsurf's), just as investor money and/or hype is going belly up.

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Tesla isn't that profitable, but SpaceX is likely generating boatloads of cash. From what I can tell Starlink alone has a free positive cash flow of about $2 billion. I'm not sure what the launch business is worth, but it's likely a lot given the absence of domestic competition. I have a suspicion the reason Musk wanted to combine SpaceX and X.ai is the latter gives him losses to write off against all that cash from…

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Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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Words do mean something, and you could have taken 5 minutes of research to make a reasonable counterclaim Tesla has an insane PE ratio because it’s a casino stock (~350x). As a comparison, NVIDIA IS 40x. SpaceX Is projected to be 300-500x. These are fantasy, completely unrealizable valuations. Similar to Enron, and Enron was over 70x. Enron wasn’t some surprise either. Typically when PE gets out of whack, market anal…

PE has literally nothing to do with what Enron did which was accounting fraud + cashflow problems because they actually didnt make any money, in fact they lost tons of money and used future earnings in current reporting

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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Every time Musk does anything these days, it further reveals the shell game he's playing with his companies. This is going to be an Enron type of story eventually. I truly wish I had a choice to pull my tax money out of this particular subsidy.

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Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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They are going straight to the Nasdaq. Most index investors are invested in the S&P 500

Nasdaq is an exchange. S&P 500 is an index. S&P 500 includes companies from multiple exchanges. Like Nvidia, which lists on Nasdaq.

Nasdaq 100…

https://www.morningstar.com/funds/spacex-ipo-how-index-funds...

> Nasdaq was the first to consider a rule change that would grant mega IPOs like SpaceX early admission to its flagship Nasdaq-100 index. The exchange and index provider began a consultation period in February to assess the viability of and industry response to a proposed “fast entry” rule. The change was approved on March 30 and will be effective on May 1.

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