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Stephen's Sausage Roll remains one of the most influential puzzle games

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Re: Stephen's Sausage Roll remains one of the most influential puzzle games

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Post by werdnapk »

Twirrim wrote: post #32
npinsker wrote: post #2

Stephen's Sausage Roll is my favorite puzzle game. But more interestingly -- it's a near-universal opinion within puzzle communities that SSR is one of the all-time best. I've never heard of such a strong consensus in other subgenres of game. Unlike other consensus "bests", it's relatively unknown to the public (which is understandable for many reasons). It's very likely that if you're a puzzle game devotee, you will…

It would surely sell more if people would actually explain what the game is, without using niche words like "sokoban". The article talks about how the trailer for it didn't really show anything about the game either, which arguably gets you into pretentious/artistic territory. After reading the linked article, and the comments here I still have zero clue about the game. It's a puzzle game involving sausages and a lar…

Almost anybody who grew up with video games in the 80s played Sokoban and knows exactly what that refers to. It was THE puzzle game in the early days of video games... that and maybe millipede.

Re: Stephen's Sausage Roll remains one of the most influential puzzle games

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Post by bee_rider »

cubefox wrote: post #23
Waterluvian wrote: post #17

My list of must play puzzle games is far too short: Portal, Portal 2, Demon’s Souls, and Baba is You. It’s amazing to me that I’ve never heard of a game this lauded.

Demon’s Souls??? I guess Zelda, Metroid and Half-Life also count as puzzle games then. :)

Well Zelda games consistently feature block-pushing puzzles so I guess Baba Is Zelda.

Re: Stephen's Sausage Roll remains one of the most influential puzzle games

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Post by omcnoe »

gowld wrote: post #28

Is this what Jonathan Blow is trying to copy with Sinking Star?

Trying to copy is a bit harsh, but he has credited it as an inspiration for what's possible within the Sokoban format. I believe he was a playtester for SSR before it released, mid The Witness development.

Re: Stephen's Sausage Roll remains one of the most influential puzzle games

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Post by omcnoe »

Twirrim wrote: post #32
npinsker wrote: post #2

Stephen's Sausage Roll is my favorite puzzle game. But more interestingly -- it's a near-universal opinion within puzzle communities that SSR is one of the all-time best. I've never heard of such a strong consensus in other subgenres of game. Unlike other consensus "bests", it's relatively unknown to the public (which is understandable for many reasons). It's very likely that if you're a puzzle game devotee, you will…

It would surely sell more if people would actually explain what the game is, without using niche words like "sokoban". The article talks about how the trailer for it didn't really show anything about the game either, which arguably gets you into pretentious/artistic territory. After reading the linked article, and the comments here I still have zero clue about the game. It's a puzzle game involving sausages and a lar…

The problem is, the ways that it's great are hard to put into words and explain for someone unfamiliar with the game. At least, not in a succinct way. At the most basic level it's just block pushing puzzles ("Sokoban").

Re: Stephen's Sausage Roll remains one of the most influential puzzle games

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Post by pocksuppet »

bee_rider wrote: post #52
cubefox wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Demon’s Souls??? I guess Zelda, Metroid and Half-Life also count as puzzle games then. :)

Well Zelda games consistently feature block-pushing puzzles so I guess Baba Is Zelda.

accidentally makes PEACH IS FORT

Sorry Mario, but your princess is another castle!

Re: Stephen's Sausage Roll remains one of the most influential puzzle games

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Post by Waterluvian »

VorpalWay wrote: post #44
Waterluvian wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me, Outer Wilds finally got the Myst feel right.

Interesting, I had passed it by when I heard it had a time limit and reset mechanic (not unlike Zelda Majora's Mask). I hated that mechanic in Majora's Mask (and I never finished that game), it made the game feel stressful to me. I prefer games where I can play slow and deliberate. If there is a time mechanic it should be turn based, not real time. (Or it should be a very short time based system such as "run across t…

I know exactly what you mean by Majora’s Mask. Ugh. I spent all that time getting here and now I’m out of time and it resets?!

I can see why Outer Wilds might feel the same way. But somehow it didn’t for me. Probably because it really doesn’t take much at all to get right back to where you were.

Re: Stephen's Sausage Roll remains one of the most influential puzzle games

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Post by blt »

Waterluvian wrote: post #17

My list of must play puzzle games is far too short: Portal, Portal 2, Demon’s Souls, and Baba is You. It’s amazing to me that I’ve never heard of a game this lauded.

Routing games like Mini Metro/Motorways, Freeways, and Fly Corp are not quite puzzle games in the traditional sense, but I'd definitely encourage any puzzle fans to try them.

Re: Stephen's Sausage Roll remains one of the most influential puzzle games

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Post by kderbe »

lanfeust6 wrote: post #20

Good sokoban, but maybe my fastest rage/impatience quit on a puzzle game at 10-ish hours. I find it too difficult.

That's my verdict on Stephen's Sausage Roll too. My personal favorite sokoban is Patrick's Parabox (the name is an obvious nod to SSR) because its puzzles have a gentler and finer-grained difficulty ramp.

Re: Stephen's Sausage Roll remains one of the most influential puzzle games

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

cubefox wrote: post #23
Waterluvian wrote: post #17

My list of must play puzzle games is far too short: Portal, Portal 2, Demon’s Souls, and Baba is You. It’s amazing to me that I’ve never heard of a game this lauded.

Demon’s Souls??? I guess Zelda, Metroid and Half-Life also count as puzzle games then. :)

Metroid, Half-Life, and Demon's Souls I would take issue with, but I've always considered Zelda a puzzle game, and I never questioned it until now.

I suppose the new Breath of the Wild / Tears of the Kingdom titles are more action-oriented, but everything in the mold of Ocarina of Time is a puzzle game with some light combat sprinkled on top.

Re: Stephen's Sausage Roll remains one of the most influential puzzle games

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Post by airstrike »

npinsker wrote: post #2

Stephen's Sausage Roll is my favorite puzzle game. But more interestingly -- it's a near-universal opinion within puzzle communities that SSR is one of the all-time best. I've never heard of such a strong consensus in other subgenres of game. Unlike other consensus "bests", it's relatively unknown to the public (which is understandable for many reasons). It's very likely that if you're a puzzle game devotee, you will…

I'll take Portal over it any day of the week
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