ANthropic never wanted my money anyway... they don't allow work + personal accounts to have the same phone number. I had to close my personal account otherwise I could not complete onboarding at work.
So I pay for Codex instead.
Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
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Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#272And this is why local AI is going to be the future.
Local AI is almost impossible right now with the prices of RAM and GPUs and the sizes of decent models. No way spending even an optimistic 10k, but more likely 20k, on a setup that is good for 5-6 months makes any financial sense.
Not yet, but it's only a matter of time. Local AI doesn't need to be bleeding edge either. Even capabilities of older modals would be fine.
Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#273Anthropic’s “Head of Growth” claims this is a “test”: https://x.com/TheAmolAvasare/status/2046724659039932830 This does not explain the changes to documentation.
> So we're looking at different options to keep delivering a great experience for users.
his title should be changed to Head of Corporate Bullshitting
Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#274From Amol, who is the Head of Growth: > For clarity, we're running a small test on ~2% of new prosumer signups. Existing Pro and Max subscribers aren't affected. https://x.com/TheAmolAvasare/status/2046724659039932830
Once again random tweets from insiders being the only clues we have to what Anthropic actual policy is
you could try customer support, that chat bot will happily loop you with some more non answers, but try to make you feel good about those non answers :)
Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#275Earlier quoted context omitted.
No I think the test is that some new sign ups won't get Claude code in that tier if they pick it and they're seeing if users will still pay for it without it?
I think the test is that new sign-ups won't have it and will the loss of five new Pro subscriptions be offset by more than one new Max subscribers. Plenty of Pro subscribers never touch claude-code.
Although the ones that never touch claude code are a free $20 a month, the ones that do are potentially a seventy to eighty dollar twenty dollars a month . it’s not instantly obvious which customers you prefer (revenue vs cash negative growth- on second thought obviously they prefer the second)
Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#276Anthropic’s “Head of Growth” claims this is a “test”: https://x.com/TheAmolAvasare/status/2046724659039932830 This does not explain the changes to documentation.
It is honestly truly fucking incredible how corps still find new, innovative ways to enshittify. Regular enshittification won't cut it, they have to exercise their artistic creativity. Who the fuck comes up with the idea that what services you get with your subscription are random ? It's mind-boggling that some percentage of people visiting the website will be presented with an inferior version of the same subscripti…
> It is honestly truly fucking incredible how corps still find new, innovative ways to enshittify. Regular enshittification won't cut it, they have to exercise their artistic creativity.
I had a bit of an epiphany the other day thinking about these VC companies offering products to the public at unsustainable prices. It's classic anticompetitive behavior.
You imagine anticompetitive behavior to come from a monopoly because they can afford to burn money to drive competition out before they bring prices back to profitable but the whole VC burn is the same thing. People talk about it a lot without really saying it explicitly when they talk about moats. The only moat Anthropic and OpenAI have is money and they utilize it by offering products below cost.
The two companies are just trying to outlast the other one until they are the only one left.
So it's not really enshitification as much as you were previously getting the deal of a lifetime.
Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#277Anthropic’s “Head of Growth” claims this is a “test”: https://x.com/TheAmolAvasare/status/2046724659039932830 This does not explain the changes to documentation.
They later said: https://twitter.com/TheAmolAvasare/status/204672549859272297... > When we do land on something, if it affects existing subscribers you'll get plenty of notice before anything changes. Will hear it from us, not a screenshot on X or Reddit. If you don't want things like this spreading through screenshots of X and Reddit, don't run "tests" like this in the first place! (Also "if it affects existing subs…
A/B tests only work if the subjects don't realize they are in a A/B test.
Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#278Anthropic’s “Head of Growth” claims this is a “test”: https://x.com/TheAmolAvasare/status/2046724659039932830 This does not explain the changes to documentation.
This test would be a good way to lose existing subscribers perhaps.
Presumably they want to lose existing subscribers because it’s way too expensive to keep them at $20.
Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#279The "5x" and "20x" no longer make sense for Max. It's supposed to be 5 times the Pro limits. But if only Max 5x has access, then they need to renamed to "Max 1x" and "Max 4x".
It could still mean 5x the Cowork limits.
Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?
#280Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the test is that new sign-ups won't have it and will the loss of five new Pro subscriptions be offset by more than one new Max subscribers. Plenty of Pro subscribers never touch claude-code.
Although the ones that never touch claude code are a free $20 a month, the ones that do are potentially a seventy to eighty dollar twenty dollars a month . it’s not instantly obvious which customers you prefer (revenue vs cash negative growth- on second thought obviously they prefer the second)
They've preferred the second so far, but they might have a fair reason to see if they can keep growing with the first one instead or cut down on some loss leading, right?